Talk:3043: Muons - Revision history

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162.158.63.72 at 15:16, 30 January 2025

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CalibansCreations at 11:47, 30 January 2025

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172.69.59.137 at 20:27, 29 January 2025

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172.71.241.144 at 16:38, 28 January 2025

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	::The only notable reference online to the word "nortcele" is the name of an Indian tech company. From the Nobel site: Patrick Maynard Stuart Blackett. Nobel Prize in Physics 1948. Prize motivation: “for his development of the Wilson cloud chamber method, and his discoveries therewith in the fields of nuclear physics and cosmic radiation.” I would recommend deleting [[Special:Contributions/172.69.59.137\|172.69.59.137]]'s comment if they fail to return in a timely manner to explain or defend it. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)		::The only notable reference online to the word "nortcele" is the name of an Indian tech company. From the Nobel site: Patrick Maynard Stuart Blackett. Nobel Prize in Physics 1948. Prize motivation: “for his development of the Wilson cloud chamber method, and his discoveries therewith in the fields of nuclear physics and cosmic radiation.” I would recommend deleting [[Special:Contributions/172.69.59.137\|172.69.59.137]]'s comment if they fail to return in a timely manner to explain or defend it. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

−	Read it backwards! Nortcele is kind of an "inverted electron", and Patrick Blackett did important research on positrons, so the comment is quite fitting. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.111.134\|162.158.111.134]] 14:29, 14 May 2025 (UTC)	+	:::Read it backwards! Nortcele is kind of an "inverted electron", and Patrick Blackett did important research on positrons, so the comment is quite fitting. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.111.134\|162.158.111.134]] 14:29, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

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	: What is this comment about, please? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.72\|162.158.63.72]] 15:16, 30 January 2025 (UTC)		: What is this comment about, please? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.72\|162.158.63.72]] 15:16, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
	::The only notable reference online to the word "nortcele" is the name of an Indian tech company. From the Nobel site: Patrick Maynard Stuart Blackett. Nobel Prize in Physics 1948. Prize motivation: “for his development of the Wilson cloud chamber method, and his discoveries therewith in the fields of nuclear physics and cosmic radiation.” I would recommend deleting [[Special:Contributions/172.69.59.137\|172.69.59.137]]'s comment if they fail to return in a timely manner to explain or defend it. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)		::The only notable reference online to the word "nortcele" is the name of an Indian tech company. From the Nobel site: Patrick Maynard Stuart Blackett. Nobel Prize in Physics 1948. Prize motivation: “for his development of the Wilson cloud chamber method, and his discoveries therewith in the fields of nuclear physics and cosmic radiation.” I would recommend deleting [[Special:Contributions/172.69.59.137\|172.69.59.137]]'s comment if they fail to return in a timely manner to explain or defend it. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
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		+	Read it backwards! Nortcele is kind of an "inverted electron", and Patrick Blackett did important research on positrons, so the comment is quite fitting. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.111.134\|162.158.111.134]] 14:29, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

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 ::::<code>As of my knowledge cutoff in October 2023, I cannot provide specific details about XKCD comic #3043, as it does not exist yet. XKCD comics are released incrementally, and the latest comic I am aware of is #2817 ("Nighttime Stories"). If #3043 has been released after October 2023, I recommend checking the official XKCD website (https://xkcd.com) or its explainer site (https://www.explainxkcd.com) for details.<br>If you have a specific question about muons or XKCD's style of humor, feel free to ask, and I’ll do my best to help!</code>
 :::''Yeah.'' [[User:CalibansCreations|'''<span style="color:#ff0000;">Caliban</span>''']] ([[User talk:CalibansCreations|talk]]) 11:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
 ::Both obviously AIs (without being told), with AI tells. Gemini 'hallucinating' that it was perhaps refering to [[2885: Spelling]] is nothing like the very different equivalent human errors, for example.
 ::Very good efforts, if they effectively OCRed and image-processed almost everything (before wandering off to thei caucus of webscraped material, from which to esoterically form their response), can't deny that. But must have been prompted by something along the lines of "The comic <url> doesn't have a good explainxkcd explanation, please discuss", from the obvious referencing that would be meta in an actual article context by ourselves.

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	Patrick Blackett won the Nobel Prize in 1948 by making the first observation of the creation of a nortcele. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.59.137\|172.69.59.137]] 20:27, 29 January 2025 (UTC)		Patrick Blackett won the Nobel Prize in 1948 by making the first observation of the creation of a nortcele. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.59.137\|172.69.59.137]] 20:27, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
	: What is this comment about, please? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.72\|162.158.63.72]] 15:16, 30 January 2025 (UTC)		: What is this comment about, please? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.72\|162.158.63.72]] 15:16, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
		+	::The only notable reference online to the word "nortcele" is the name of an Indian tech company. From the Nobel site: Patrick Maynard Stuart Blackett. Nobel Prize in Physics 1948. Prize motivation: “for his development of the Wilson cloud chamber method, and his discoveries therewith in the fields of nuclear physics and cosmic radiation.” I would recommend deleting [[Special:Contributions/172.69.59.137\|172.69.59.137]]'s comment if they fail to return in a timely manner to explain or defend it. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

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	Patrick Blackett won the Nobel Prize in 1948 by making the first observation of the creation of a nortcele. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.59.137\|172.69.59.137]] 20:27, 29 January 2025 (UTC)		Patrick Blackett won the Nobel Prize in 1948 by making the first observation of the creation of a nortcele. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.59.137\|172.69.59.137]] 20:27, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
		+	: What is this comment about, please? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.72\|162.158.63.72]] 15:16, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

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 :Claude's is better, by far. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.215.54|172.70.215.54]] 01:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
 ::I think they're both surprisingly good. But wouldn't it be more timely to ask DeepSeek, the new Chinese AI that's tanking US tech stocks? [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 15:17, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
 ::Both obviously AIs (without being told), with AI tells. Gemini 'hallucinating' that it was perhaps refering to [[2885: Spelling]] is nothing like the very different equivalent human errors, for example.
 ::Very good efforts, if they effectively OCRed and image-processed almost everything (before wandering off to thei caucus of webscraped material, from which to esoterically form their response), can't deny that. But must have been prompted by something along the lines of "The comic <url> doesn't have a good explainxkcd explanation, please discuss", from the obvious referencing that would be meta in an actual article context by ourselves.

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	The point is that we observe muons that have time slowed down coming from the sky. Cueball is differentiating normal muons from muons that appear to have time slowed down for them, by slowing down his speech when referring to the slowed muons. It's a strange idea, refering to something that has time slowed for it. It's not something one often does outside fantasy. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.168\|162.158.158.168]] 04:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC)		The point is that we observe muons that have time slowed down coming from the sky. Cueball is differentiating normal muons from muons that appear to have time slowed down for them, by slowing down his speech when referring to the slowed muons. It's a strange idea, refering to something that has time slowed for it. It's not something one often does outside fantasy. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.168\|162.158.158.168]] 04:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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		+	Patrick Blackett won the Nobel Prize in 1948 by making the first observation of the creation of a nortcele. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.59.137\|172.69.59.137]] 20:27, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

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 : The Doppler Effect will sound like the Sega logo sound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dIXw0OEtk4
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 Fed the comic image into two AIs: Gemini and Claude. These are their explanations; please tell me which is better:
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 :It's a particularly nerdy physics joke because it combines accurate physics (muons really do reach the surface due to time dilation) with a playful misapplication of the concept to human speech. The stick figure appears to be teaching or presenting this concept, complete with what looks like equations on a board, making it feel like a legitimate physics lesson with a humorous twist.
-:This is characteristic of xkcd's style of humor, which often combines accurate scientific concepts with absurdist interpretations.
+:This is characteristic of xkcd's style of humor, which often combines accurate scientific concepts with absurdist interpretations. {{unsigned|AK24Ammit|23:35, 27 January 2025}}
 :Claude's is better, by far. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.215.54|172.70.215.54]] 01:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
 ::I think they're both surprisingly good. But wouldn't it be more timely to ask DeepSeek, the new Chinese AI that's tanking US tech stocks? [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 15:17, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
 The point is that we observe muons that have time slowed down coming from the sky. Cueball is differentiating normal muons from muons that appear to have time slowed down for them, by slowing down his speech when referring to the slowed muons. It's a strange idea, refering to something that has time slowed for it. It's not something one often does outside fantasy. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.168|162.158.158.168]] 04:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

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	:Claude's is better, by far. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.215.54\|172.70.215.54]] 01:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)		:Claude's is better, by far. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.215.54\|172.70.215.54]] 01:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
		+	::I think they're both surprisingly good. But wouldn't it be more timely to ask DeepSeek, the new Chinese AI that's tanking US tech stocks? [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 15:17, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

	The point is that we observe muons that have time slowed down coming from the sky. Cueball is differentiating normal muons from muons that appear to have time slowed down for them, by slowing down his speech when referring to the slowed muons. It's a strange idea, refering to something that has time slowed for it. It's not something one often does outside fantasy. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.168\|162.158.158.168]] 04:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC)		The point is that we observe muons that have time slowed down coming from the sky. Cueball is differentiating normal muons from muons that appear to have time slowed down for them, by slowing down his speech when referring to the slowed muons. It's a strange idea, refering to something that has time slowed for it. It's not something one often does outside fantasy. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.168\|162.158.158.168]] 04:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

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 ::Correct, even if their velocities are not bimodal, you can absolutely divide them into two classes based on whether they decay before reaching the surface. I am pretty sure that's what's intended here. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.23.136|172.68.23.136]] 03:42, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
 :::I websearched around and found an old video from COSMUS showing an air shower with differently colored particles flying off. It looks like the COSMUS site is broken nowadays, but in archive.org I found it mentioned that the muons were red in the video. I saw some red particles decaying quickly like the behavior of smoke or fire or steam, and others firing toward the ground. I added a first paragraph with what I learned exploring. I'm sad the COSMUS site from the university of chicago seems down for years. They publicly modeled so many air showers and more. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.189|162.158.159.189]] 04:26, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
 Fed the comic image into two AIs: Gemini and Claude. These are their explanations; please tell me which is better: