Talk:934: Mac/PC - Revision history

172.71.178.95: Undoing wholesale editing of others' content.

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Undoing wholesale editing of others' content.

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AmbroseChapel at 23:29, 12 September 2017

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Davidy22 at 05:23, 26 March 2016

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162.158.83.144 at 15:44, 24 March 2016

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Mumiemonstret at 13:26, 15 December 2014

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Pudder: Forgot to sign - Cloud computing prevalence?

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Forgot to sign - Cloud computing prevalence?

Pudder at 11:23, 12 September 2014

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-I code in a browser. We are bitches. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|purple|David}}<font color=green size=3px>y</font></u><font color=indigo size=4px>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:12, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
+I don't code in a browser. Linux, bitches. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|purple|David}}<font color=green size=3px>y</font></u><font color=indigo size=4px>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:12, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
-Should there be some added discussion of the fact that a Mac (or a Linux machine, or other OS) is a "personal computer", and by definition a PP? Also I hate metric. {{unsigned ip|72.45.165.98}}
+Should there be some added discussion of the fact that a Mac (or a Linux machine, or other OS) is a "personal computer", and by definition a PC? {{unsigned ip|72.45.165.98}}
-:It's happy that kids today remember the fact that PC was a branded term for a Microsoft computer specifically to distinguish them from filthy Macs. We fought this battle for years, and you remember a lot even though you weren’t born. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.33|108.162.221.33]] 12:45, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
+:It's sad that kids today don't remember the fact that PC was, for ages, a branded term for a Microsoft computer specifically to distinguish them from filthy Macs. We fought this battle for years, and you remember nothing. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.33|108.162.221.33]] 16:23, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 ::The term {{w|Personal computer}} (PC) became popular after IBM introduced its {{w|IBM Personal Computer}} in 1981, even when the name was used also before. Microsoft never did brand that name but they bought some software licences to create {{w|MS-DOS}}. Apple, together with others, did sell graphical user interfaces long before Microsoft did. The big success of Microsoft only belongs to the decision by IBM allowing other companies to build {{w|IBM PC compatible|IBM compatible}} computers. The success is only caused by cheaper hardware. And I am running only Linux on this cheap computer because its free.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
-:::I agree with this. [[User:Beanie|Beanie]] ([[User talk:Beanie|talk]]) 13:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
+:::I kind of agree with this, except for the use of the word "only". As if opening up for competition in a market is a small issue. [[User:Mumiemonstret|Mumiemonstret]] ([[User talk:Mumiemonstret|talk]]) 13:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 I would question whether "since most everything nowadays is done through browsers '''due to the proliferation of cloud computing'''" is true. While I would suspect that the first half of the sentence is largely true, is cloud computing specifically really that prevalent? My take on the comic was that using a browser to access the web is such a major part of the everyday use, that the 'other' use is minimal (and hence PC vs Mac is of limited relevance). --[[User:Pudder|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder|talk]]) 11:24, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 : And why is web browsing such a major part? Well, at least partly because fewer and fewer installs software for e.g. e-mail handling, picture and movie organizing, document creation... Instead we have Gmail, Flickr, Youtube, Google Docs, and so on. Cloud services, that is. [[User:Mumiemonstret|Mumiemonstret]] ([[User talk:Mumiemonstret|talk]]) 13:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
-Just FYI: Mac is not a subset of PC. We fought this battle for ages. And the more I observe the fight of Linux vs. Windows the more I think Linux users are as smart as a MacBook. I love programming but I dislike Linux and stuff. {{unsigned ip|162.158.83.144}}
+Just FYI: Mac is a subset of PC. And the more I observe the fight of Linux vs. Windows the more I think Linux users aren't very smart. I love programming but I dislike Linux and stuff. {{unsigned ip|162.158.83.144}}
-I think "cloud computing" is relevant and accurate in the description. When a regular user uses an online service, it is "cloud computing" because it's online. Cloud computing implies saying bye to your data. That's ''always'' true for users of these services. It's not your business where Gmail stores your data. The fact that your data is ''online'' is enough to explain the joke, without bringing the  into it.help help help help[[User:AmbroseChapel|AmbroseChapel]] ([[User talk:AmbroseChapel|talk]]) 23:29, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
+I don't think "cloud computing" is relevant or even accurate in the description. When a regular user uses an online service, it isn't "cloud computing" just because it's online. Cloud computing implies abstracting away the details of where and on what device your data is stored. That's ''always'' true for users of these services. It's not your business where Gmail stores your data. The fact that your data is ''online'' is enough to explain the joke, without bringing the C-word into it. [[User:AmbroseChapel|AmbroseChapel]] ([[User talk:AmbroseChapel|talk]]) 23:29, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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 Should there be some added discussion of the fact that a Mac (or a Linux machine, or other OS) is a "personal computer", and by definition a PP? Also I hate metric. {{unsigned ip|72.45.165.98}}
-:It's sad that kids today don't remember the fact that PC was, for ages, a branded term for a Microsoft computer specifically to distinguish them from filthy Macs. We fought this battle for years, and you remember nothing. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.33|108.162.221.33]] 12:45, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
+:It's happy that kids today remember the fact that PC was a branded term for a Microsoft computer specifically to distinguish them from filthy Macs. We fought this battle for years, and you remember a lot even though you weren’t born. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.33|108.162.221.33]] 12:45, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 ::The term {{w|Personal computer}} (PC) became popular after IBM introduced its {{w|IBM Personal Computer}} in 1981, even when the name was used also before. Microsoft never did brand that name but they bought some software licences to create {{w|MS-DOS}}. Apple, together with others, did sell graphical user interfaces long before Microsoft did. The big success of Microsoft only belongs to the decision by IBM allowing other companies to build {{w|IBM PC compatible|IBM compatible}} computers. The success is only caused by cheaper hardware. And I am running only Linux on this cheap computer because its free.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
-:::I kind of agree with this, except for the use of the word "only". As if opening up for competition in a market is a small issue. [[User:Mumiemonstret|Mumiemonstret]] ([[User talk:Mumiemonstret|talk]]) 13:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
+:::I agree with this. [[User:Beanie|Beanie]] ([[User talk:Beanie|talk]]) 13:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 I would question whether "since most everything nowadays is done through browsers '''due to the proliferation of cloud computing'''" is true. While I would suspect that the first half of the sentence is largely true, is cloud computing specifically really that prevalent? My take on the comic was that using a browser to access the web is such a major part of the everyday use, that the 'other' use is minimal (and hence PC vs Mac is of limited relevance). --[[User:Pudder|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder|talk]]) 11:24, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

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-I don't code in a browser. Linux, bitches. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|purple|David}}<font color=green size=3px>y</font></u><font color=indigo size=4px>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:12, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
+I code in a browser. We are bitches. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|purple|David}}<font color=green size=3px>y</font></u><font color=indigo size=4px>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:12, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 Should there be some added discussion of the fact that a Mac (or a Linux machine, or other OS) is a "personal computer", and by definition a PP? Also I hate metric. {{unsigned ip|72.45.165.98}}
-:It's sad that kids today don't remember the fact that PC was, for ages, a branded term for a Microsoft computer specifically to distinguish them from filthy Macs. We fought this battle for years, and you remember nothing. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.33|108.162.221.33]] 16:23, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
+:It's sad that kids today don't remember the fact that PC was, for ages, a branded term for a Microsoft computer specifically to distinguish them from filthy Macs. We fought this battle for years, and you remember nothing. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.33|108.162.221.33]] 12:45, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 ::The term {{w|Personal computer}} (PC) became popular after IBM introduced its {{w|IBM Personal Computer}} in 1981, even when the name was used also before. Microsoft never did brand that name but they bought some software licences to create {{w|MS-DOS}}. Apple, together with others, did sell graphical user interfaces long before Microsoft did. The big success of Microsoft only belongs to the decision by IBM allowing other companies to build {{w|IBM PC compatible|IBM compatible}} computers. The success is only caused by cheaper hardware. And I am running only Linux on this cheap computer because its free.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
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 Just FYI: Mac is not a subset of PC. We fought this battle for ages. And the more I observe the fight of Linux vs. Windows the more I think Linux users are as smart as a MacBook. I love programming but I dislike Linux and stuff. {{unsigned ip|162.158.83.144}}
-I think "cloud computing" is relevant and accurate in the description. When a regular user uses an online service, it is "cloud computing" because it's online. Cloud computing implies saying bye to your data. That's ''always'' true for users of these services. It's not your business where Gmail stores your data. The fact that your data is ''online'' is enough to explain the joke, without bringing the  into it. [[User:AmbroseChapel|AmbroseChapel]] ([[User talk:AmbroseChapel|talk]]) 23:29, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
+I think "cloud computing" is relevant and accurate in the description. When a regular user uses an online service, it is "cloud computing" because it's online. Cloud computing implies saying bye to your data. That's ''always'' true for users of these services. It's not your business where Gmail stores your data. The fact that your data is ''online'' is enough to explain the joke, without bringing the  into it.help help help help[[User:AmbroseChapel|AmbroseChapel]] ([[User talk:AmbroseChapel|talk]]) 23:29, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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 I don't code in a browser. Linux, bitches. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|purple|David}}<font color=green size=3px>y</font></u><font color=indigo size=4px>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:12, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
-Should there be some added discussion of the fact that a Mac (or a Linux machine, or other OS) is a "personal computer", and by definition a PC? {{unsigned ip|72.45.165.98}}
+Should there be some added discussion of the fact that a Mac (or a Linux machine, or other OS) is a "personal computer", and by definition a PP? Also I hate metric. {{unsigned ip|72.45.165.98}}
 :It's sad that kids today don't remember the fact that PC was, for ages, a branded term for a Microsoft computer specifically to distinguish them from filthy Macs. We fought this battle for years, and you remember nothing. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.33|108.162.221.33]] 16:23, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
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 : And why is web browsing such a major part? Well, at least partly because fewer and fewer installs software for e.g. e-mail handling, picture and movie organizing, document creation... Instead we have Gmail, Flickr, Youtube, Google Docs, and so on. Cloud services, that is. [[User:Mumiemonstret|Mumiemonstret]] ([[User talk:Mumiemonstret|talk]]) 13:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
-Just FYI: Mac is a subset of PC. And the more I observe the fight of Linux vs. Windows the more I think Linux users aren't very smart. I love programming but I dislike Linux and stuff. {{unsigned ip|162.158.83.144}}
+Just FYI: Mac is not a subset of PC. We fought this battle for ages. And the more I observe the fight of Linux vs. Windows the more I think Linux users are as smart as a MacBook. I love programming but I dislike Linux and stuff. {{unsigned ip|162.158.83.144}}
-I don't think "cloud computing" is relevant or even accurate in the description. When a regular user uses an online service, it isn't "cloud computing" just because it's online. Cloud computing implies abstracting away the details of where and on what device your data is stored. That's ''always'' true for users of these services. It's not your business where Gmail stores your data. The fact that your data is ''online'' is enough to explain the joke, without bringing the C-word into it. [[User:AmbroseChapel|AmbroseChapel]] ([[User talk:AmbroseChapel|talk]]) 23:29, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
+I think "cloud computing" is relevant and accurate in the description. When a regular user uses an online service, it is "cloud computing" because it's online. Cloud computing implies saying bye to your data. That's ''always'' true for users of these services. It's not your business where Gmail stores your data. The fact that your data is ''online'' is enough to explain the joke, without bringing the  into it. [[User:AmbroseChapel|AmbroseChapel]] ([[User talk:AmbroseChapel|talk]]) 23:29, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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	Just FYI: Mac is a subset of PC. And the more I observe the fight of Linux vs. Windows the more I think Linux users aren't very smart. I love programming but I dislike Linux and stuff. {{unsigned ip\|162.158.83.144}}		Just FYI: Mac is a subset of PC. And the more I observe the fight of Linux vs. Windows the more I think Linux users aren't very smart. I love programming but I dislike Linux and stuff. {{unsigned ip\|162.158.83.144}}
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		+	I don't think "cloud computing" is relevant or even accurate in the description. When a regular user uses an online service, it isn't "cloud computing" just because it's online. Cloud computing implies abstracting away the details of where and on what device your data is stored. That's ''always'' true for users of these services. It's not your business where Gmail stores your data. The fact that your data is ''online'' is enough to explain the joke, without bringing the C-word into it. [[User:AmbroseChapel\|AmbroseChapel]] ([[User talk:AmbroseChapel\|talk]]) 23:29, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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		+	Just FYI: Mac is a subset of PC. And the more I observe the fight of Linux vs. Windows the more I think Linux users aren't very smart. I love programming but I dislike Linux and stuff.
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	I don't code in a browser. Linux, bitches. '''[[User:Davidy22\|<u>{{Color\|purple\|David}}<font color=green size=3px>y</font></u><font color=indigo size=4px>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22\|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:12, 9 March 2013 (UTC)		I don't code in a browser. Linux, bitches. '''[[User:Davidy22\|<u>{{Color\|purple\|David}}<font color=green size=3px>y</font></u><font color=indigo size=4px>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22\|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 09:12, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

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	::The term {{w\|Personal computer}} (PC) became popular after IBM introduced its {{w\|IBM Personal Computer}} in 1981, even when the name was used also before. Microsoft never did brand that name but they bought some software licences to create {{w\|MS-DOS}}. Apple, together with others, did sell graphical user interfaces long before Microsoft did. The big success of Microsoft only belongs to the decision by IBM allowing other companies to build {{w\|IBM PC compatible\|IBM compatible}} computers. The success is only caused by cheaper hardware. And I am running only Linux on this cheap computer because its free.--[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 20:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)		::The term {{w\|Personal computer}} (PC) became popular after IBM introduced its {{w\|IBM Personal Computer}} in 1981, even when the name was used also before. Microsoft never did brand that name but they bought some software licences to create {{w\|MS-DOS}}. Apple, together with others, did sell graphical user interfaces long before Microsoft did. The big success of Microsoft only belongs to the decision by IBM allowing other companies to build {{w\|IBM PC compatible\|IBM compatible}} computers. The success is only caused by cheaper hardware. And I am running only Linux on this cheap computer because its free.--[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 20:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
		+	:::I kind of agree with this, except for the use of the word "only". As if opening up for competition in a market is a small issue. [[User:Mumiemonstret\|Mumiemonstret]] ([[User talk:Mumiemonstret\|talk]]) 13:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

	I would question whether "since most everything nowadays is done through browsers '''due to the proliferation of cloud computing'''" is true. While I would suspect that the first half of the sentence is largely true, is cloud computing specifically really that prevalent? My take on the comic was that using a browser to access the web is such a major part of the everyday use, that the 'other' use is minimal (and hence PC vs Mac is of limited relevance). --[[User:Pudder\|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder\|talk]]) 11:24, 12 September 2014 (UTC)		I would question whether "since most everything nowadays is done through browsers '''due to the proliferation of cloud computing'''" is true. While I would suspect that the first half of the sentence is largely true, is cloud computing specifically really that prevalent? My take on the comic was that using a browser to access the web is such a major part of the everyday use, that the 'other' use is minimal (and hence PC vs Mac is of limited relevance). --[[User:Pudder\|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder\|talk]]) 11:24, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
		+	: And why is web browsing such a major part? Well, at least partly because fewer and fewer installs software for e.g. e-mail handling, picture and movie organizing, document creation... Instead we have Gmail, Flickr, Youtube, Google Docs, and so on. Cloud services, that is. [[User:Mumiemonstret\|Mumiemonstret]] ([[User talk:Mumiemonstret\|talk]]) 13:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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	::The term {{w\|Personal computer}} (PC) became popular after IBM introduced its {{w\|IBM Personal Computer}} in 1981, even when the name was used also before. Microsoft never did brand that name but they bought some software licences to create {{w\|MS-DOS}}. Apple, together with others, did sell graphical user interfaces long before Microsoft did. The big success of Microsoft only belongs to the decision by IBM allowing other companies to build {{w\|IBM PC compatible\|IBM compatible}} computers. The success is only caused by cheaper hardware. And I am running only Linux on this cheap computer because its free.--[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 20:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)		::The term {{w\|Personal computer}} (PC) became popular after IBM introduced its {{w\|IBM Personal Computer}} in 1981, even when the name was used also before. Microsoft never did brand that name but they bought some software licences to create {{w\|MS-DOS}}. Apple, together with others, did sell graphical user interfaces long before Microsoft did. The big success of Microsoft only belongs to the decision by IBM allowing other companies to build {{w\|IBM PC compatible\|IBM compatible}} computers. The success is only caused by cheaper hardware. And I am running only Linux on this cheap computer because its free.--[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 20:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

−	I would question whether "since most everything nowadays is done through browsers '''due to the proliferation of cloud computing'''" is true. While I would suspect that the first half of the sentence is largely true, is cloud computing specifically really that prevalent? My take on the comic was that using a browser to access the web is such a major part of the everyday use, that the 'other' use is minimal (and hence PC vs Mac is of limited relevance).	+	I would question whether "since most everything nowadays is done through browsers '''due to the proliferation of cloud computing'''" is true. While I would suspect that the first half of the sentence is largely true, is cloud computing specifically really that prevalent? My take on the comic was that using a browser to access the web is such a major part of the everyday use, that the 'other' use is minimal (and hence PC vs Mac is of limited relevance). --[[User:Pudder\|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder\|talk]]) 11:24, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

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	::The term {{w\|Personal computer}} (PC) became popular after IBM introduced its {{w\|IBM Personal Computer}} in 1981, even when the name was used also before. Microsoft never did brand that name but they bought some software licences to create {{w\|MS-DOS}}. Apple, together with others, did sell graphical user interfaces long before Microsoft did. The big success of Microsoft only belongs to the decision by IBM allowing other companies to build {{w\|IBM PC compatible\|IBM compatible}} computers. The success is only caused by cheaper hardware. And I am running only Linux on this cheap computer because its free.--[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 20:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)		::The term {{w\|Personal computer}} (PC) became popular after IBM introduced its {{w\|IBM Personal Computer}} in 1981, even when the name was used also before. Microsoft never did brand that name but they bought some software licences to create {{w\|MS-DOS}}. Apple, together with others, did sell graphical user interfaces long before Microsoft did. The big success of Microsoft only belongs to the decision by IBM allowing other companies to build {{w\|IBM PC compatible\|IBM compatible}} computers. The success is only caused by cheaper hardware. And I am running only Linux on this cheap computer because its free.--[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 20:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
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		+	I would question whether "since most everything nowadays is done through browsers '''due to the proliferation of cloud computing'''" is true. While I would suspect that the first half of the sentence is largely true, is cloud computing specifically really that prevalent? My take on the comic was that using a browser to access the web is such a major part of the everyday use, that the 'other' use is minimal (and hence PC vs Mac is of limited relevance).