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(I don't think we can call this a straw man argument. This is exactly how I feel about horror movies, roller coasters, titanic, etc.)
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This comic is a follow-up to [[2056: Horror Movies]] released a month earlier. While the first Horror Movies comic was about giving voice to Randall's inability to enjoy horror movies, this comic takes Randall's previous position and exaggerates it.
 
This comic is a follow-up to [[2056: Horror Movies]] released a month earlier. While the first Horror Movies comic was about giving voice to Randall's inability to enjoy horror movies, this comic takes Randall's previous position and exaggerates it.

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Horror Movies 2
When I was a kid, someone told me the end of The Giver was ambiguous, which surprised me. I had just assumed Jonah died--because the book had a medal on the cover, and I knew grown-ups liked stories where sad stuff happens at the end for no reason.
Title text: When I was a kid, someone told me the end of The Giver was ambiguous, which surprised me. I had just assumed Jonah died--because the book had a medal on the cover, and I knew grown-ups liked stories where sad stuff happens at the end for no reason.

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This comic is a follow-up to 2056: Horror Movies released a month earlier. While the first Horror Movies comic was about giving voice to Randall's inability to enjoy horror movies, this comic takes Randall's previous position and exaggerates it.

White Hat and Cueball discuss the appeal of horror movies and tragic plots. Cueball expresses his dissatisfaction with stories that focus on evoking negative feelings. As an example he mentions how he disliked the ending of Titanic where Jack sacrifices his life in order to save Rose. White Hat does not seem to share Cueball's point of view on successful storytelling and sarcastically promises to send feedback to the movie director James Cameron as well as the 16th century playwright William Shakespeare.

In the title text Cueball (Randall?) discusses the ending of the science fiction novel The Giver where the fate of the main character Jonas [sic, see Trivia] had been left ambiguous. The joke is a reference to the stereotype that the Newbery Medal award is only given to books with tragic endings.

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[White Hat and Cueball are walking.]
White Hat: So you don't like any horror movies?
Cueball: Spooky stuff is neat but I hate jump scares and watching people get murdered.
Cueball: Why would you want to see that?
White Hat: It's like roller coasters. People like experiencing powerful feelings in a safe, controlled setting.
Cueball: But why not good feelings?
White Hat: We've always been into tragic stories. Romeo and Juliet, Titanic...
Cueball: See, that's another thing I don't get!
Cueball: I loved Titanic because Rose and Jack found each other and seemed so happy! I just hated the ending.
White Hat: I'll be sure to give James Cameron and Shakespeare your feedback.

Trivia

In the original (current) title-text, there is a typo where the protagonist of The Giver is referred to as "Jonah" instead of "Jonas."


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Discussion

I always assumed Jonas died too, but apparently the author wrote sequels and he didn't die 108.162.216.190 15:38, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BackFromTheDead (it's actually rather Not Quite Dead, but the linked article has better info and links the other one.) --162.158.88.128 18:26, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
It feels like this: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeathByNewberyMedal should be linked somewhere. Thaledison (talk) 18:05, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

In my opinion, tragic stories should be about something real that we can learn from. Other tragic media only serve to desensitize us to tragic realities. The proper response to something tragic is to prevent it in the future. You can't do that with a horror movie. I think people are responding to our culture's distance from the extreme tragic realities of the world: some part of our brain is craving to handle tragic things in a world where such stories are all hidden in some way. 172.68.65.150 20:49, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

There is quite a lot horror movies where the tragic part can totally be prevented if they just didn't do that obvious stupid thing they did, like going to the basement ... also, alternative explanation would be that people like tragic and horror movies because compared to that, their own tragedies don't look so serious. However, I might be bad person to explain ; I don't watch horror movies, I watch fantasy movies like Dracula or sci-fi like Frankenstein ... there are several movies where I was rooting for the monster. Ok, in some of them EVERYONE was rooting for the monster, but still. -- Hkmaly (talk) 23:15, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

It should say Jonah [sic], not Jonas [sic]. The [sic] implies you did NOT correct it (so: the one quoting should not be blamed for the error). While, in this situation, you did correct the original error. 162.158.38.40 07:19, 25 November 2018 (UTC)