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(As the responder (172.70.162.155) in the conversation, now that someone else has nicely moved our conversation I think I can take the liberty of removing *both* our (sotto-voce) regrets for our original non-optimal comment locations. ;).)
 
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(there is no discussion page and i am not allowed to create one so I'll say it here to be freely reverted) Wouldn't it be a better idea for a category of comics (notice comics, not pages) not using the "citation needed template"... oh and a category of non-comic pages using the template? idk. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.178|172.70.175.178]] 20:11, 3 May 2022 (UTC)Bumpf
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Wouldn't it be a better idea for a category of comics (notice comics, not pages) not using the "citation needed template"... oh and a category of non-comic pages using the template? idk. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.178|172.70.175.178]] 20:11, 3 May 2022 (UTC)Bumpf
:(Even more than you I cannot create a Talk: page, so same conditions apply here... Once someone creates the page, I'm sure they will move us both over there, if our chatter still exists.)
 
 
:Might be a bad idea to have the set of all non-CNed pages (comic or otherwise), because it should not be a cue to visit them all and disqualify them by revoking the state of absence.
 
:Might be a bad idea to have the set of all non-CNed pages (comic or otherwise), because it should not be a cue to visit them all and disqualify them by revoking the state of absence.
 
:And I'm not sure how the backend of a Wiki server can be persuaded to properly present "all pages that match this but ''don't'' match this other thing", in a rigorous manner. Also one that doesn't fall foul of Russell's Paradox, potentially, unless self-membership is rigorously pre-filtered out as even a potential option.
 
:And I'm not sure how the backend of a Wiki server can be persuaded to properly present "all pages that match this but ''don't'' match this other thing", in a rigorous manner. Also one that doesn't fall foul of Russell's Paradox, potentially, unless self-membership is rigorously pre-filtered out as even a potential option.
 
:As to "non-comics that use it", if you go to the very last page of the list, below, you should see the end of the number-starting articles and the few (not insignificant) remaining pages that have got {{template|Citation needed}} in them, despite not being proper comic-pages.
 
:As to "non-comics that use it", if you go to the very last page of the list, below, you should see the end of the number-starting articles and the few (not insignificant) remaining pages that have got {{template|Citation needed}} in them, despite not being proper comic-pages.
 
:Oh, except for the very first thing you should see below. The oddity that a Category page that uses the template must apparently be considered a subcategory (though technically a direct member, not one by category membership, unless I've missed something) interests me. I must actually inspect a Wiki source-code at some point, to see if the devs commented or even coded the handler with awareness of this possibility. (That and Russell!) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 21:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 
:Oh, except for the very first thing you should see below. The oddity that a Category page that uses the template must apparently be considered a subcategory (though technically a direct member, not one by category membership, unless I've missed something) interests me. I must actually inspect a Wiki source-code at some point, to see if the devs commented or even coded the handler with awareness of this possibility. (That and Russell!) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 21:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

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Wouldn't it be a better idea for a category of comics (notice comics, not pages) not using the "citation needed template"... oh and a category of non-comic pages using the template? idk. 172.70.175.178 20:11, 3 May 2022 (UTC)Bumpf

Might be a bad idea to have the set of all non-CNed pages (comic or otherwise), because it should not be a cue to visit them all and disqualify them by revoking the state of absence.
And I'm not sure how the backend of a Wiki server can be persuaded to properly present "all pages that match this but don't match this other thing", in a rigorous manner. Also one that doesn't fall foul of Russell's Paradox, potentially, unless self-membership is rigorously pre-filtered out as even a potential option.
As to "non-comics that use it", if you go to the very last page of the list, below, you should see the end of the number-starting articles and the few (not insignificant) remaining pages that have got {{Citation needed}} in them, despite not being proper comic-pages.
Oh, except for the very first thing you should see below. The oddity that a Category page that uses the template must apparently be considered a subcategory (though technically a direct member, not one by category membership, unless I've missed something) interests me. I must actually inspect a Wiki source-code at some point, to see if the devs commented or even coded the handler with awareness of this possibility. (That and Russell!) 172.70.162.155 21:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)