Talk:1723: Meteorite Identification

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lol, some poor soul is now wondering why his Meteorite ID chart is being flooded with traffic! 141.101.98.59 12:08, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

I'd like to see some analysis of the linked flowchart, or a least an explanation of the title text comment. Why does "Did you see it fall" have only an "yes" option, that leads to "not a meteorite" Zeimusu (talk) 12:10, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Because actually seeing a meteorite fall and recovering it is an incredibly rare event (690 times since 1900), but stories about how they saw a meteor fall and went out and found a rock in the middle of a crater are a dime-a-dozen. So if someone shows up with a rock they think is a meteorite, odds are they will say they saw it fall, but odds are it's not a meteorite. --162.158.214.231 14:26, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
You missed the "have only a yes option". It lacks a "No" path. --108.162.218.179 20:07, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
I assume the reason for that is that the chart has run out of ideas why you'd even think it's a meteorite at that point 141.101.98.59 08:30, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm wondering if this is related to the recent claims in British newspapers (Warning, Daily Mail content Link 141.101.98.83 12:27, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Here's the chart hosted externally: http://imgur.com/a/AzQOk Also, could somebody explain the mouseover text? Why does it falling from the sky mean it's not a meteorite? (Edit: Imgur's servers are trying to give out. Here's another external hosted version: http://oi66.tinypic.com/315yazp.jpg ) NexTerren (talk) 12:47, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Where did the 'there have only been 690 confirmed cases since 1900' factoid come from? Wikipedia says there are over 38,000 well documented finds, referring to a 2011 source. 108.162.250.161 13:03, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

The "Some Metorite Realities" page says "Since 1900, the numbers of recognized meteorite "falls" is about 690 for the whole Earth." It looks like the author mistook that as the total number of meteorite discoveries. 173.245.54.28 13:49, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Here's some explanation on why seeing a meteorite fall is unlikely: http://www.meteoritemarket.com/metid2.htm Located at point 48A from http://meteorites.wustl.edu/realities.htm (Linked on the full chart) 141.101.70.43 13:07, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

I just tried fixing it up FOUR TIMES, and got an edit conflict each time. The later ones didn't even change anything. I'd contribute, but not if this keeps happening. Papayaman1000 (talk) 14:50, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Sorry about that, but I hope my edits fixed this. There is now an extended explanation of the title text. I'm finished for now, so please improve where needed. --Kynde (talk) 14:52, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I can't even get on it. 162.158.75.27 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)


Well, thanks Randall for stealing my chart ....

http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,11,279733,279757

(and yes, I emailed a linkt to this to Randall in 2013) --108.162.215.125 04:25, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

»Any meteor big enough to glow and be visible while falling will leave a large impact crater, rather than simply sit on the ground as a rock.« Doesn't many meteors break up and fragment while still in the air? Such an event could be highly visible on the sky yet yield meteorites sitting on the ground. --141.101.80.70 09:03, 23 August 2016 (UTC)