https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1760:_TV_Problems&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:1760: TV Problems - Revision history2024-03-28T19:46:18ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.30.0https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1760:_TV_Problems&diff=297819&oldid=prevNitpicking: You are correct2022-10-31T04:55:57Z<p>You are correct</p>
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</table>Nitpickinghttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1760:_TV_Problems&diff=184066&oldid=prevLupo: references?2019-12-03T11:46:49Z<p>references?</p>
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</table>Lupohttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1760:_TV_Problems&diff=131122&oldid=prev162.158.201.72 at 18:47, 17 November 20162016-11-17T18:47:59Z<p></p>
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</table>108.162.226.107https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1760:_TV_Problems&diff=131117&oldid=prevSteveBaker: My take on this2016-11-17T13:33:23Z<p>My take on this</p>
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</table>SteveBakerhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1760:_TV_Problems&diff=131113&oldid=prevMaineGrammy: 1950s "remote" function2016-11-17T11:04:55Z<p>1950s "remote" function</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hutchy01 has a point: this comic is political, as were 1756 & 1759. Cueball is doing everything that he can not to watch the news; even after he fixes his computer, he still won't be able to watch it. White Hat misinterprets him, asking about his computer science degree to imply he ought to be able to take care of a simple thing like this. Cueball replies that no, this is not the case - much as his computer science degree allows him to diagnose computer problems, being well educated does not help him to perform anything more than a postmortem on how wrong election forecasts were. The title text might be implying that being authoritative on a topic has nothing to do with determining how events actually transpire. [[User:Usbcord|Usbcord]] ([[User talk:Usbcord|talk]]) 19:26, 16 November 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hutchy01 has a point: this comic is political, as were 1756 & 1759. Cueball is doing everything that he can not to watch the news; even after he fixes his computer, he still won't be able to watch it. White Hat misinterprets him, asking about his computer science degree to imply he ought to be able to take care of a simple thing like this. Cueball replies that no, this is not the case - much as his computer science degree allows him to diagnose computer problems, being well educated does not help him to perform anything more than a postmortem on how wrong election forecasts were. The title text might be implying that being authoritative on a topic has nothing to do with determining how events actually transpire. [[User:Usbcord|Usbcord]] ([[User talk:Usbcord|talk]]) 19:26, 16 November 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
</table>MaineGrammyhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1760:_TV_Problems&diff=131107&oldid=prevAnotherAnonymous at 08:22, 17 November 20162016-11-17T08:22:26Z<p></p>
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</table>108.162.215.130https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1760:_TV_Problems&diff=131097&oldid=prevDavidy22 at 21:33, 16 November 20162016-11-16T21:33:05Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Do we even want to see the news any more? [[User:Hutchy01|Hutchy01]] ([[User talk:Hutchy01|talk]]) 15:45, 16 November 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Do we even want to see the news any more? [[User:Hutchy01|Hutchy01]] ([[User talk:Hutchy01|talk]]) 15:45, 16 November 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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