Editing Talk:1905: Cast Iron Pan

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I think one can argue that White Hat never said 24 hours of CONTINUOUS sunlight. [[User:R3TRI8UTI0N|R3TRI8UTI0N]] ([[User talk:R3TRI8UTI0N|talk]]) 03:59, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Wouldn't you mean solstices instead of equinoxes? Why travel to the Arctic during an equinox? The day is 12 hours long there during an equinox just the same as anywhere in the world. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.233|108.162.246.233]] 04:55, 20 October 2017 (UTC) An Arctic Inhabitant
:There is only one solstice (the summer one) that has 24-hour sunlight (a.k.a. midnight sun) in the Arctic circle. However, near the North pole, you have close to 6 months of daylight (a.k.a. polar day), bounded by the equinoxes. So, you could theoretically visit the North Pole in late March and mid-September to have two days of 24-hour sunlight nearly 6 months apart.  <sub> [[User:Nialpxe|<span style="color: #055; text-decoration: none;">Nialpxe</span>]], 2017. [[User_talk:Nialpxe|<span style="color: #055; text-decoration: none;">(Arguments welcome)</span>]] (From the subtropics) </sub>
::It is also for this reason it says close to the equinoxes. At the equinoxes the sun sets for the first time in 6 months at one of the poles (rises at the other), splitting that 24 hour cycle in two times 12 hours of sun/no sun. And then it either stays up of stays down the next half a year. So if you come just after the sun rose and then again just before the sun sets on the North Pole you could get 24 hours sun shine with about a half year apart, but not completely. So this is White Hat's objection, although the title text also states that it doesn't have to be equally spaced. But in White Hat's opinion (of his teasing Cueball) it should be exactly half a year apart, and probably preferably on the two poles when the sun is highest at the Summer/Winter Solstices... ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:29, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
:Two details:
:a) The equinoxes are not exactly 6 months apart.  The earths orbit is not circular.  A daylight "day" at the south pole is about 9 days longer than at the north pole.  There is a narrow window to pull off 24 hours of daylight six months apart using only the south pole, whether "6 months" is 6 calendar months or exactly half a year.
:b) Because sunrise and sunset (and direct sunlight) are defined by the upper limb of the sun and because of refraction polar, polar sunrise is about 3 days before the equinox and polar sunset is about 3 days after the next equinox.  This widens the window at the south pole and just about makes it possible to do at the north pole.  
:  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.232|162.158.63.232]] 18:01, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Just to make sure, the "iron filings" part has no real use. Isn't it? --[[User:Lou Crazy|Lou Crazy]] ([[User talk:Lou Crazy|talk]]) 09:21, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
:Yes the two last advice has no meaning and also has no myth they are based on. The soap myth may be a problem if the coating is just oil based and could in principle be a problem with some old pans --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:29, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

You don't need to throw away pans if the seasoning gets messed up, just reseason them, in case of rust or extreme gunk attack it with an angle grinder until it is shiny. Use safety equipment!  Then reseason it.  [[User:BlakeFelix|BlakeFelix]] ([[User talk:BlakeFelix|talk]]) 12:23, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

It is my understanding that you don't want to use soap on a cast iron pan because the soap will get into the pores and cause any food you cook on it after that to taste like soap. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.34|172.68.54.34]] 14:26, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
:Nope. After the soap quickly comes rust, and to remove the rust, you have to scrub away the seasoning. If you did use soap, wipe the pan with an oily cloth afterwards. Or just use hot water and a brush. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.88.92|162.158.88.92]] 17:29, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

So what is this a metaphor for? There's something you can't own unless other people believe you are taking good care of it, even if the care is nonsensical... The first thing I thought of was a baby, but that doesn't really seem likely to me. Any other ideas? [[User:Maplestrip|Maplestrip]] ([[User talk:Maplestrip|talk]]) 14:34, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
:It’s not a metaphor. There are people who are actually super fanatical (or pretentious) about cast iron pans.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.64|162.158.75.64]] 15:06, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
::Oh yes. And then there are people who very nearly faint every time someone with a butter knive comes close to their teflon pans. ;-) --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.88.92|162.158.88.92]] 17:35, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

:Swords obviously, possibly specifically [http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/touching-the-katana-blade-dos-and-donts.html Katanas]. You need to care a lot to keep sword in optimal condition, AND there is definitely the angle of "not being worthy for sword". Note that pan can be used as weapon in anime or cartoons, which makes it more funny. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 04:28, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
::I just realized it could definitely be a metaphor for pets, which take a lot of work to properly take care for. It seems unlike Randal to make fun of people who are advocating for people to take care of their pets better, though. Another thing that comes to mind now is books, but surely anyone who damages books in any way is a heretic. [[User:Maplestrip|Maplestrip]] ([[User talk:Maplestrip|talk]]) 12:33, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

The ambiguity in the transcript of which hand White Hat is holding his pan suggests a 50% chance he mutated a third arm.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.58.123|162.158.58.123]] 06:31, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
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 :It’s not a metaphor. There are people who are actually super fanatical (or pretentious) about cast iron pans.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.64|162.158.75.64]] 15:06, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 ::Oh yes. And then there are people who very nearly faint every time someone with a butter knive comes close to their teflon pans. ;-) --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.88.92|162.158.88.92]] 17:35, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
-:::Don't you dare get anything other than wood near my beloved teflon pans, or said ''anything'' will make you walk uncomfortable soon :-) --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.52|172.68.110.52]] 18:32, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 :Swords obviously, possibly specifically [http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/touching-the-katana-blade-dos-and-donts.html Katanas]. You need to care a lot to keep sword in optimal condition, AND there is definitely the angle of "not being worthy for sword". Note that pan can be used as weapon in anime or cartoons, which makes it more funny. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 04:28, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 ::I just realized it could definitely be a metaphor for pets, which take a lot of work to properly take care for. It seems unlike Randal to make fun of people who are advocating for people to take care of their pets better, though. Another thing that comes to mind now is books, but surely anyone who damages books in any way is a heretic. [[User:Maplestrip|Maplestrip]] ([[User talk:Maplestrip|talk]]) 12:33, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
-::No, no metaphor, '''REALLY''' talking about cast iron cookware. For example, a story went around that this girl made an idiot-proof cookbook for her brother, and the insulting first page was so popular that people wanted the whole thing. That starts with similar instructions for seasonng and care of a cast-iron pan: [http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/01/girl-makes-brilliantly-basic-cookbook-for-older-brother-who-screws-everything-up-6103711/ Check this article about it which includes a link to the full Google Doc] [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:16, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 The ambiguity in the transcript of which hand White Hat is holding his pan suggests a 50% chance he mutated a third arm.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.58.123|162.158.58.123]] 06:31, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
-The first sentence of the explanation claims that the do-not-soap-thing is a myth and gives three sources from "the internet". The first source only refers to the third (actually using the same image), so it's only two sources. Secondly, this website recommends to re-season the pan after each use (and cleaning), which is kind of contradicting to the statement, that the seasoning is not harmed. Not at all convincing to me - but I do believe there is some dissent on the issue. mb (who does not believe in every blog post)
-Don't forget being in motion during the time, you could easily get 24 hours of sunlight 6 months apart you only gotta travel one timezone per day to make 23 hours of sunlight turn into 24. --19:24, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[[Special:Contributions/162.158.146.124|162.158.146.124]] Eric Aksomitis
-An easy solution would to charter a private jet, and tie the pan to the roof somehow. Then you would just need to have some sort of magnet to prevent the iron fillings from falling out. Then take your jet on a great circle path, you could easily get 24 hours of sunlight, assuming you found somewhere to refuel.