Talk:1923: Felsius

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Thanks who, at the same time as I, wrote the better explanation with formulae; you're welcome for the table (which, for my first attempt at a MediaWiki table, and in a big hurry to be first*, I think came out all right). ((*Go ahead and edit at will!)) --BigMal // 108.162.216.184 16:44, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Seems like this is awfully relevant: https://xkcd.com/927/ -- Derek Antrican 108.162.246.23 16:54, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

You can't write formulas like that! °C is degree(s) Celsius, not the value of some temperature as measured in degrees Celsius. You should write something like [°C] or °C-1 instead (if we treat °C as an affine function mapping dimensionless values to temperatures). Or you can be explicit and say something like "x°F = ((x − 32) * 5 / 9)°C". --172.68.54.22 19:59, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Fahrenheit contribution to the name is disproportionately small for an average of two scales. It should have been at least Falsius, with added punniness, or Fahlsius, to be more unique. -- Average Alex

It should be ‘Fahlsius’, or even ‘Fählsius’, but notice that the pronunciation will still be more or less like ‘Felsius’ and not like ‘Fall-sius’ (for the same reason that ‘Fahrenheit’ or ‘Fährenheit’ is pronounced more or less like ‘Fair-enheit’ and not like ‘Far-enheit’. —TobyBartels (talk) 04:58, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
It should be Centiheit141.101.104.239 09:32, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
No, it should be Celsiheit. Either case, the name would also fit the sign better than Felsius162.158.92.28 11:52, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
There's obviously only one way to resolve this. It should be called Eemsinl5:. Hppavilion1 (talk) 03:58, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm obliged to share https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=227Hdz8VFKo. As a pedant, I have to point out that water's melting and boiling point aren't quite at 0 °C and 100 °C (and that Celsius originally had it backwards). And I *do* like "Falsius". Fluppeteer (talk) 21:19, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Watch out for Felsius/Celsius or Felsius/Fahrenheit hybrids: https://xkcd.com/419/ WhiteDragon (talk) 22:20, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

What is an "epislon"? 162.158.88.170 23:02, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

A Greek letter; follow the link where the word first appears in the explanation. —TobyBartels (talk) 04:58, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure there's no Greek letter epislon. Which is presumably why it got corrected.141.101.104.239 09:40, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

I think the Ukranian Ye (Є) would be closer, visually speaking.162.158.186.42 23:40, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Or the mathematical symbol ⋲ (ELEMENT OF WITH LONG HORIZONTAL STROKE) or C̶ (LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C + COMBINING LONG STROKE OVERLAY)? Or ℃̶ (DEGREE CELSIUS + COMBINING LONG STROKE OVERLAY)? Sabik (talk) 11:36, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
Yes, ELEMENT OF WITH LONG HORIZONTAL STROKE seems exactly right (not only by look, but also since ELEMENT OF is basically a lunate Epsilon already and changing the HORIZONTAL STROKE so that it is LONG is precisely the modification WITH which it needs to be equipped), and I think that we should switch to this immediately! —TobyBartels (talk) 04:58, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Done. Sabik (talk) 06:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Apparantly someone needs to be taught about the Rømer scale that is the ancestor of both Celcius and Fahrenhet. It has fixed constants for all three of water boiling, freezing and the temperature of brine.162.158.202.226 23:06, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

I remove the reference to ammonium chloride from the temperature table because, while it is cool (both figuratively and literally), it's also obsolete: in the modern Fahrenheit scale, this happens at 4°F, not at 0°F. (See the table at Frigorific mixture.) —TobyBartels (talk) 04:58, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

If the creator of the website that was inspired by the comic created one that was based on SE Asian countries, I would like to know the felsius of that. I am curious as heck.Boeing-787lover 06:33, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Note that as visible on the Kelvin page, the temperatures actually used to define the scales are absolute zero and the triple point of water, as other points, including the boiling temperature of water, body temperature, room temperature, pure water freeze and saturated salt water freeze one, are hard to measure reliably (due to pressure requirements). -- Hkmaly (talk) 02:59, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Do you think Randall made up a new symbol for Felsius with the intention of making the job difficult for explain xkcd (or at least knowing that it would complicate matters)? Sensorfire (talk) 03:15, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

assumably? really? i suppose you use supposably, too, just to annoy. tsk. --162.158.89.133 13:55, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Reminds me of the time I created a standard that blended the two together in such a way that 0 degrees was the water freezing point (because that does make sense) and 100 degrees was equal to 100 degrees in fahrenheit (because really hot = larger number than celsius.) lol, that was years ago, I don't remember the formula. 173.245.50.186 14:42, 8 December 2017 (UTC) Sam

The Andronov Scale is based around this idea (though it was later revised to move 100° Andronov to 44°C). Arcorann (talk) 13:16, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

The room temperature and body temperature provided in the table above display false precision. The link provided gives room temperature as the range from 68°F-72°F, so if you wanted to say 70°F +/- 2°F, that would be correct, but there is literally nobody on the planet who would tell you that normal room temperature is 71.6°F. As to body temperature, there is likewise considerable variation which is considered normal. According to WebMD, "For a typical adult, body temperature can be anywhere from 97°F to 99°F." 98.6°F may be a commonly-quoted figure, but it is nevertheless a product of false precision introduced when converting from the round number in Celsius. 162.158.78.202 18:12, 13 December 2017 (UTC) Joshua

Title text error??[edit]

So I looked at this comic today and when i went to view the title text it had changed slightly. Where it should have said "Euro symbol (€) and the Greek lunate epsilon (ϵ)" it said "Euro symbol (â,﹁) and the Greek lunate epsilon (Ï,μ)

It it just my device? (I'm on mobile) Or has the comic changed? 172.68.70.70 03:45, 15 September 2019 (UTC)