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Or is a losing veteran of the Emu wars [[Special:Contributions/172.69.55.70|172.69.55.70]] 14:59, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 
Or is a losing veteran of the Emu wars [[Special:Contributions/172.69.55.70|172.69.55.70]] 14:59, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Or tried to pet a swan and had to fight said Swan over your dismembered finger[[Special:Contributions/172.69.55.70|172.69.55.70]] 15:02, 26 December 2018 (UTC)  Or never had an argument with a magpie. Or a Kookaburra, for that matter.
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Or tried to pet a swan and had to fight said Swan over your dismembered finger[[Special:Contributions/172.69.55.70|172.69.55.70]] 15:02, 26 December 2018 (UTC)  Or never had an argument with a magpie. Or a Kookaburra, for that matter. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.118.46|162.158.118.46]] 04:10, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
  
 
or kept chickens, flew falcons etc.  
 
or kept chickens, flew falcons etc.  
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Just remember. The term raptor applies to both birds and dinosaurs. [[User:Rtanenbaum|Rtanenbaum]] ([[User talk:Rtanenbaum|talk]]) 21:51, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 
   
 
   
 
I hate to be that guy, but isn't this a Euler diagram? [[User:Cyclic3|Cyclic3]] ([[User talk:Cyclic3|talk]]) 15:30, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 
I hate to be that guy, but isn't this a Euler diagram? [[User:Cyclic3|Cyclic3]] ([[User talk:Cyclic3|talk]]) 15:30, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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: I have added a description of the difference between the two into the article. Please feel free to cut it down if it's too long, or remove it if it is unnecessary! [[User:Cyclic3|Cyclic3]] ([[User talk:Cyclic3|talk]]) 18:00, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 
: I have added a description of the difference between the two into the article. Please feel free to cut it down if it's too long, or remove it if it is unnecessary! [[User:Cyclic3|Cyclic3]] ([[User talk:Cyclic3|talk]]) 18:00, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 
: Both this and 1180 have been mislabled as Venn Diagrams. Literally unreadable. [[User:Cyclic3|Cyclic3]] ([[User talk:Cyclic3|talk]]) 18:17, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 
: Both this and 1180 have been mislabled as Venn Diagrams. Literally unreadable. [[User:Cyclic3|Cyclic3]] ([[User talk:Cyclic3|talk]]) 18:17, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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::Seems like Randall has previously called Euler diagrams Venn diagrams, see [[:Category:Euler diagrams|Category:Euler diagrams]]. Strange because he usually do not make these mistakes (twice). Has he ever made a Venn diagram then? --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:43, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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The comic has nothing to do with whether or not dinosaurs with feathers existed, but whether or not dinosaurs with feathers would be scary. [[User:Rtanenbaum|Rtanenbaum]] ([[User talk:Rtanenbaum|talk]]) 18:56, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 
The comic has nothing to do with whether or not dinosaurs with feathers existed, but whether or not dinosaurs with feathers would be scary. [[User:Rtanenbaum|Rtanenbaum]] ([[User talk:Rtanenbaum|talk]]) 18:56, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
  
 
For those of us unfamiliar with Jurassic Park, could somebody comment on the relevance of the new movies being "controversial"?  (and add any other missing information that would be relevant?)  One of the questions this comic leaves me with, is whether or not new Jurassic Park movies contain feathered dinosaurs, which could be a draw to see them.  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.93.201|162.158.93.201]] 02:25, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 
For those of us unfamiliar with Jurassic Park, could somebody comment on the relevance of the new movies being "controversial"?  (and add any other missing information that would be relevant?)  One of the questions this comic leaves me with, is whether or not new Jurassic Park movies contain feathered dinosaurs, which could be a draw to see them.  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.93.201|162.158.93.201]] 02:25, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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:Yes, for anyone who only watched one or two of the movies once or twice, the title text doesn't make sense. The explanation is about who that kid is, but not what it means. Are the sequel-raptors less scary? feathery? or does it just not make any sense?--[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 08:21, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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:The sequels added some small-ish crests to the raptors that sortof look like feathers, but ultimately the makers of the movie didn't want to stray too far from the look of the dinos in the first movie. In Jurassic World (4th movie) they actually address it with a throwaway line claiming none of the dinos are "natural"(part of the plot surrounds the creation of a genetic hybrid dinosaur, rather than a natural species) and would look very different if they were made with pure DNA. My assumption is this line is meant to explain the lack of feathers [[User:Defaultdotxbe|Defaultdotxbe]] ([[User talk:Defaultdotxbe|talk]]) 15:18, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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I always through the "6 foot turkey" comment was an off-handed acknowledgement that the velociraptors in the movie were much larger than actual velociraptors, and actually closer in size to utahraptor (real velociraptors were about the size of a turkey, but have a cooler name than "utahraptor") [[User:Defaultdotxbe|Defaultdotxbe]] ([[User talk:Defaultdotxbe|talk]]) 15:20, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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I remember seeing that apparently Florida governor Rick Scott used a Venn diagram that was wrong. Might be associated with this [[Special:Contributions/172.68.133.84|172.68.133.84]] 18:27, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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: I did a search and couldn't find anything like this about Rick Scott - I believe you're referring to the outgoing Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker. He recently displayed a Venn diagram where the areas inside two circles but outside the intersecting area contained the exact same contents, instead of the content being shown within the overlapping region where it would have been correct. [[User:Ianrbibtitlht|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht|talk]]) 22:11, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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: Furthermore, I don't see any way it could be related to this comic! [[User:Ianrbibtitlht|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht|talk]]) 22:13, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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Venn diagram incorrect: there should be an intersection containing Chuck Norris :) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.176|162.158.155.176]] 08:10, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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Or is a losing veteran of the Emu wars 172.69.55.70 14:59, 26 December 2018 (UTC) Or tried to pet a swan and had to fight said Swan over your dismembered finger172.69.55.70 15:02, 26 December 2018 (UTC) Or never had an argument with a magpie. Or a Kookaburra, for that matter. 162.158.118.46 04:10, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

or kept chickens, flew falcons etc.

Just remember. The term raptor applies to both birds and dinosaurs. Rtanenbaum (talk) 21:51, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

I hate to be that guy, but isn't this a Euler diagram? Cyclic3 (talk) 15:30, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes it is. 172.68.58.83 17:07, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Yep! For anyone who's curious, a Venn diagram shows intersections between sets that don't actually exist while sets in an Euler diagram intersect only when they overlap in the real world. Moosenonny10 (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
I have added a description of the difference between the two into the article. Please feel free to cut it down if it's too long, or remove it if it is unnecessary! Cyclic3 (talk) 18:00, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Both this and 1180 have been mislabled as Venn Diagrams. Literally unreadable. Cyclic3 (talk) 18:17, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Seems like Randall has previously called Euler diagrams Venn diagrams, see Category:Euler diagrams. Strange because he usually do not make these mistakes (twice). Has he ever made a Venn diagram then? --Kynde (talk) 14:43, 28 December 2018 (UTC)


The comic has nothing to do with whether or not dinosaurs with feathers existed, but whether or not dinosaurs with feathers would be scary. Rtanenbaum (talk) 18:56, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

For those of us unfamiliar with Jurassic Park, could somebody comment on the relevance of the new movies being "controversial"? (and add any other missing information that would be relevant?) One of the questions this comic leaves me with, is whether or not new Jurassic Park movies contain feathered dinosaurs, which could be a draw to see them. 162.158.93.201 02:25, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes, for anyone who only watched one or two of the movies once or twice, the title text doesn't make sense. The explanation is about who that kid is, but not what it means. Are the sequel-raptors less scary? feathery? or does it just not make any sense?--Lupo (talk) 08:21, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
The sequels added some small-ish crests to the raptors that sortof look like feathers, but ultimately the makers of the movie didn't want to stray too far from the look of the dinos in the first movie. In Jurassic World (4th movie) they actually address it with a throwaway line claiming none of the dinos are "natural"(part of the plot surrounds the creation of a genetic hybrid dinosaur, rather than a natural species) and would look very different if they were made with pure DNA. My assumption is this line is meant to explain the lack of feathers Defaultdotxbe (talk) 15:18, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

I always through the "6 foot turkey" comment was an off-handed acknowledgement that the velociraptors in the movie were much larger than actual velociraptors, and actually closer in size to utahraptor (real velociraptors were about the size of a turkey, but have a cooler name than "utahraptor") Defaultdotxbe (talk) 15:20, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

I remember seeing that apparently Florida governor Rick Scott used a Venn diagram that was wrong. Might be associated with this 172.68.133.84 18:27, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

I did a search and couldn't find anything like this about Rick Scott - I believe you're referring to the outgoing Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker. He recently displayed a Venn diagram where the areas inside two circles but outside the intersecting area contained the exact same contents, instead of the content being shown within the overlapping region where it would have been correct. Ianrbibtitlht (talk) 22:11, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Furthermore, I don't see any way it could be related to this comic! Ianrbibtitlht (talk) 22:13, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Venn diagram incorrect: there should be an intersection containing Chuck Norris :) 162.158.155.176 08:10, 12 March 2019 (UTC)