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Needs an explanation of the rift system itself. What is it? When did it form? How did conservatives feel about it at the time?
 
Needs an explanation of the rift system itself. What is it? When did it form? How did conservatives feel about it at the time?
(It's definitely not a reference to Palladium Rifts, which would be a whole different thing!)
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(It’s definitely not a reference to Palladium Rifts, which would be a whole different thing!)
 
[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 16:12, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 
[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 16:12, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
  
 
If Black Hat runs, I vote for him. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.35|141.101.104.35]] 15:15, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 
If Black Hat runs, I vote for him. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.35|141.101.104.35]] 15:15, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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:--If Black Hat runs, we all vote for him. Even if we don't vote...--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.190|162.158.38.190]] 00:01, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
  
 
Has anyone else thought of all the new beach front property that would be created? Lex Luthor would be proud. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.166|108.162.245.166]] 15:32, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 
Has anyone else thought of all the new beach front property that would be created? Lex Luthor would be proud. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.166|108.162.245.166]] 15:32, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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"''It is unclear why would anyone vote for such a thing, but people directly affected (the Midwest) are likely to vote against Black Hat.''"
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''It is unclear why would anyone vote for such a thing, but people directly affected (the Midwest) are likely to vote against Black Hat.''
:In the interests of accuracy, it should be noted that 2016 showed that it being unclear why anyone would vote for a thing doesn't stop them from doing so, eagerly.  Even when they are are going to be directly affected very adversely. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.19|162.158.107.19]] 18:00, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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:In the interests of accuracy, it should be noted that 2016 showed that it being unclear why anyone would vote for a thing doesn’t stop them from doing so, eagerly.  Even when they are are going to be directly affected very adversely. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.19|162.158.107.19]] 18:00, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
  
 
Actually we ended up with a large shallow outlandish president instead. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.42|162.158.106.42]] 18:31, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 
Actually we ended up with a large shallow outlandish president instead. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.42|162.158.106.42]] 18:31, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
  
The reason why people vote to abandon European Union in BRexit is obvious: they think that institutions of European Union would create laws, decisions etc which would hurt them even worse than BRexit. Now, you may not agree with this, but you can't say it's completely unfathomable. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 23:55, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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The reason why people vote to abandon European Union in BRexit is obvious: they think that institutions of European Union would create laws, decisions etc which would hurt them even worse than BRexit. Now, you may not agree with this, but you can’t say it’s completely unfathomable. [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 23:55, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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There is an North American Midcontinent Rift as described at the start of the comic. See for example https://eos.org/features/new-insights-into-north-americas-midcontinent-rift or the Wikipedia page about it. Someone much more knowledgeable about geology than I am probably ought to update the explanation. [[User:D Gary Grady|D Gary Grady]] ([[User talk:D Gary Grady|talk]]) 02:39, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
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I was thinking the giant crowbar is just an illustration trick, and it would be likely done with explosives or something. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.131|108.162.212.131]] 12:45, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
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:The crowbar would work, provided it was big enough and one had been able to resolve Archimedes' dilemma — Δώσε μου μια θέση να σταθώ, και θα μετακινήσω τη γη.[[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 09:10, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
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::Hmm ... I guess you'd want your fulcrum and standing position to be affixed to the half of the earth that you want to stay put relative to you.  You could probably find a fulcrum on the earth.  You're likeliy in a space suit with a strong tether.  You'd have to some how get the end of the crowbar deep inside the rock under the soil, or you'd just dig a trench.  I'm suspecting it would have to be _really_ deep to actually split the continent and not just knock some huge rock chunks out like when blasting is done to reshape the landscape.  You'd then have to travel far enough in outer space in order to move the rock with enough significance to produce the size of rift desired, and I don't expect things to get too much easier as the rock breaks because you are almost trying to shift entire tectonic plates.  I'm thinking you'd run into major issues traveling far enough to push the crowbar, but this could be resolvable with machines.  A remaining issue would be placing the crowbar deep enough to actually shift a plate.  We've dug incredibly deep holes, but I'm not sure quite _that_ deep.  The final issue is that a material would be needed that is strong enough to withstand the inner forces that would be required to shift an entire tectonic plate.  The lever would have to be incredibly thick in order to withstand all the strain involved with the relatively-weak metals we have.  At that point it would be so heavy and wide that countering its friction could be a monumental feat.  I think that leverage is probably one tool for this job, but that other creative tools would need to be combined with it to actually succeed.  I don't believe Archimedes!  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.47|162.158.79.47]] 12:59, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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As a Cascadian Separatist, I'm all for this plan.  Near as I can tell, the only thing the east coast does for the west coast is spend money. [[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:00, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
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Should mention that it's also known as the Keweenawan Rift, pronounced QAnon Rift. {{unsigned ip|141.101.107.234}}
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Should mention that "finish the job" is a very campaign-like statement. Nathan B-A. 3/7/2019 9:35pm EST {{unsigned ip|172.68.54.34}}

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Needs an explanation of the rift system itself. What is it? When did it form? How did conservatives feel about it at the time? (It’s definitely not a reference to Palladium Rifts, which would be a whole different thing!) ProphetZarquon (talk) 16:12, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

If Black Hat runs, I vote for him. 141.101.104.35 15:15, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

--If Black Hat runs, we all vote for him. Even if we don't vote...--162.158.38.190 00:01, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Has anyone else thought of all the new beach front property that would be created? Lex Luthor would be proud. 108.162.245.166 15:32, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

I have always thought the US ought to have a large shallow inland sea.
ProphetZarquon (talk) 15:38, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

It is unclear why would anyone vote for such a thing, but people directly affected (the Midwest) are likely to vote against Black Hat.

In the interests of accuracy, it should be noted that 2016 showed that it being unclear why anyone would vote for a thing doesn’t stop them from doing so, eagerly. Even when they are are going to be directly affected very adversely. 162.158.107.19 18:00, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Actually we ended up with a large shallow outlandish president instead. 162.158.106.42 18:31, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

The reason why people vote to abandon European Union in BRexit is obvious: they think that institutions of European Union would create laws, decisions etc which would hurt them even worse than BRexit. Now, you may not agree with this, but you can’t say it’s completely unfathomable. – Hkmaly (talk) 23:55, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

There is an North American Midcontinent Rift as described at the start of the comic. See for example https://eos.org/features/new-insights-into-north-americas-midcontinent-rift or the Wikipedia page about it. Someone much more knowledgeable about geology than I am probably ought to update the explanation. D Gary Grady (talk) 02:39, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

I was thinking the giant crowbar is just an illustration trick, and it would be likely done with explosives or something. 108.162.212.131 12:45, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

The crowbar would work, provided it was big enough and one had been able to resolve Archimedes' dilemma — Δώσε μου μια θέση να σταθώ, και θα μετακινήσω τη γη.RAGBRAIvet (talk) 09:10, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Hmm ... I guess you'd want your fulcrum and standing position to be affixed to the half of the earth that you want to stay put relative to you. You could probably find a fulcrum on the earth. You're likeliy in a space suit with a strong tether. You'd have to some how get the end of the crowbar deep inside the rock under the soil, or you'd just dig a trench. I'm suspecting it would have to be _really_ deep to actually split the continent and not just knock some huge rock chunks out like when blasting is done to reshape the landscape. You'd then have to travel far enough in outer space in order to move the rock with enough significance to produce the size of rift desired, and I don't expect things to get too much easier as the rock breaks because you are almost trying to shift entire tectonic plates. I'm thinking you'd run into major issues traveling far enough to push the crowbar, but this could be resolvable with machines. A remaining issue would be placing the crowbar deep enough to actually shift a plate. We've dug incredibly deep holes, but I'm not sure quite _that_ deep. The final issue is that a material would be needed that is strong enough to withstand the inner forces that would be required to shift an entire tectonic plate. The lever would have to be incredibly thick in order to withstand all the strain involved with the relatively-weak metals we have. At that point it would be so heavy and wide that countering its friction could be a monumental feat. I think that leverage is probably one tool for this job, but that other creative tools would need to be combined with it to actually succeed. I don't believe Archimedes! 162.158.79.47 12:59, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

As a Cascadian Separatist, I'm all for this plan. Near as I can tell, the only thing the east coast does for the west coast is spend money. Seebert (talk) 14:00, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Should mention that it's also known as the Keweenawan Rift, pronounced QAnon Rift. 141.101.107.234 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Should mention that "finish the job" is a very campaign-like statement. Nathan B-A. 3/7/2019 9:35pm EST 172.68.54.34 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)