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OT: When I first read the Blizzard Warning in the south-east, I thought it was a Buzzard Warning; I think that is not on the NWS list of warnings, alerts and advisories.  It seems like pretty much everything is there except an Amber Alert, but that is handled by other agencies. [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 03:26, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 
OT: When I first read the Blizzard Warning in the south-east, I thought it was a Buzzard Warning; I think that is not on the NWS list of warnings, alerts and advisories.  It seems like pretty much everything is there except an Amber Alert, but that is handled by other agencies. [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 03:26, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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Maybe we should add colors of the warnings to the transcript, but there seems to be so many colors and shades and my command of English color adjectives is not adequate. -- [[User:Malgond|Malgond]] ([[User talk:Malgond|talk]]) 07:38, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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All those parantheses in the transcript have to go. Making (even well guessed) assumptions about what is meant is not what a transcript is for. [[User:Elektrizikekswerk|Elektrizikekswerk]] ([[User talk:Elektrizikekswerk|talk]]) 14:54, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
  
 
== Gale War ==
 
== Gale War ==
 
Ok, so it's possibly Gale Warning; but a war between the North Wind and Dorothy in Oz would be something worth warning about surely? [[User:Kev|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev|talk]]) 01:11, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 
Ok, so it's possibly Gale Warning; but a war between the North Wind and Dorothy in Oz would be something worth warning about surely? [[User:Kev|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev|talk]]) 01:11, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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: I hadn't noticed the Gale War, but I came here to see if anyone mentioned the Buzzard Warn(ing) — but it turns out it's BLIzzard rather than BUzzard.  Oh well.  Would've been fun.  (Is "buzzard" a euphemism for "winged monkey"?  Or maybe the other way around?) [[Special:Contributions/172.68.46.113|172.68.46.113]] 17:20, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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== Weather for the past week ==
  
 
~~There was a flash flood watch near maryland, would that relate?~~
 
~~There was a flash flood watch near maryland, would that relate?~~
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:A massive heat wave affected a large portion of the USA this past weekend. I'm willing to bet that was the inspiration for this comic. https://twitter.com/NWS/status/1152708819291688960
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[[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.124|108.162.241.124]] 11:57, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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Bet how much?
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== What's the pun? ==
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I don't think the real (or the only) pun is in NWS having to go on vacation sometimes. I feel (but I am not a U.S. resident) that the comic refers to NWS or any other agency issuing too many or too broad warnings, making them somewhat useless and annoying. That's my impression regarding my own country's alerting system at least. The comic, in usual Randall's style, just takes it to the extreme, vacation being only an excuse. Any comments from U.S. residents regarding real-life alerts? -- [[User:Malgond|Malgond]] ([[User talk:Malgond|talk]]) 07:49, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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:I think the cartoon is illustrating that too many warnings is a bad thing.  You have similar problems with computers and airlines (where once the pilots removed wiring to stop the constant unnecessary warnings).  Warnings tend to be additive through mission creep and contradictory, meaning too much noise and not enough signal getting through to the end user who lacks the cognitive load to make appropriate actions. [[User:Kev|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev|talk]]) 09:37, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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::I agree, the cartoon probably is playing off of the extreme number of weather warnings issued these days. I think I've gotten "extreme heat" warnings for the past week straight, and I can't remember the last time I went a week without some kind of extreme weather warning, like a thunderstorm, fog, heat, cold, ... you know, normal things.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.34|162.158.126.34]] 11:23, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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What a good day to live in East North Carolina. And pleasant weather for anyone who happens to be searching for the Red October!
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Did anyone else notice that one of the polygons clips the bottom corner of Texas (and therefore doesn't cover the entire US)?[[Special:Contributions/172.69.160.148|172.69.160.148]] 14:26, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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This reminds me of California’s ubiquitous proposition 65 warnings, which demonstrate nicely how even good intentioned warnings completely lose their power when used too often. [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 00:34, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
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==Table==
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Started table, I'll gradually fill it in this weekend. If someone thinks of a way to rearrange it so it looks better, please do so. Also, what color is "Storm Surge Warning"? Searched for it on Google, didn't find anything. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 12:06, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
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:Ashfall Warning is either real (e.g. from the Hawaii volcano eruptions last year) or from the Mystborn series of books. {{unsigned ip|108.162.241.214}}
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::It's real, see [https://www.weather.gov/help-map this page] listing all the warnings and colors. The link given in the explanation was created by NWS in Texas, so some of them are missing. I'll add the link to the explanation as well. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 12:38, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
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== Added colour. ==
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Makes it pop out a bit more. Made it bold to make it easier to read, and intentionally didn't bold the characters in brackets. I think that is a nice touch. Let me know what you think.<span> — [[User:Sqrt-1|The <b>𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">stalk</span>]]</sup></span> 04:10, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

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Transcript[edit]

I tried to start one, but it's going to be hard to do the list of warnings right.--108.162.215.190 00:33, 23 July 2019 (UTC)


Well I've gone ahead and added all the warnings that I could. The only way to know the ones that are just "Advisory", "Watch", or "Warning" on the left hand side is if we talk to Randall himself. --172.68.46.113 00:50, 23 July 2019 (UTC)


All NWS statements are color coded and the few that I know off the top of my head (Severe T-Storm, Hurricane) seem to match with Randall's coloring. Idk who filled out the transcript of warnings and if they already did this, but if everything thing else we know marches, we could use that to determine the remaining one.

Also on a separate note, Gale Warning is listed twice. Once in the top left in full and again along the right side where it's cut off as "Gale War". 162.158.126.76 01:57, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Went through the NWS List of Warnings and updated all the cut off warnings as accurately as I could, I'm not sure about the Severe Weather Statement, the color is rather close to Rip Current Statement too. Multiverse (talk) 03:05, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

OT: When I first read the Blizzard Warning in the south-east, I thought it was a Buzzard Warning; I think that is not on the NWS list of warnings, alerts and advisories. It seems like pretty much everything is there except an Amber Alert, but that is handled by other agencies. Nutster (talk) 03:26, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Maybe we should add colors of the warnings to the transcript, but there seems to be so many colors and shades and my command of English color adjectives is not adequate. -- Malgond (talk) 07:38, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

All those parantheses in the transcript have to go. Making (even well guessed) assumptions about what is meant is not what a transcript is for. Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 14:54, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Gale War[edit]

Ok, so it's possibly Gale Warning; but a war between the North Wind and Dorothy in Oz would be something worth warning about surely? Kev (talk) 01:11, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed the Gale War, but I came here to see if anyone mentioned the Buzzard Warn(ing) — but it turns out it's BLIzzard rather than BUzzard. Oh well. Would've been fun. (Is "buzzard" a euphemism for "winged monkey"? Or maybe the other way around?) 172.68.46.113 17:20, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Weather for the past week[edit]

~~There was a flash flood watch near maryland, would that relate?~~

A massive heat wave affected a large portion of the USA this past weekend. I'm willing to bet that was the inspiration for this comic. https://twitter.com/NWS/status/1152708819291688960

108.162.241.124 11:57, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Bet how much?

What's the pun?[edit]

I don't think the real (or the only) pun is in NWS having to go on vacation sometimes. I feel (but I am not a U.S. resident) that the comic refers to NWS or any other agency issuing too many or too broad warnings, making them somewhat useless and annoying. That's my impression regarding my own country's alerting system at least. The comic, in usual Randall's style, just takes it to the extreme, vacation being only an excuse. Any comments from U.S. residents regarding real-life alerts? -- Malgond (talk) 07:49, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

I think the cartoon is illustrating that too many warnings is a bad thing. You have similar problems with computers and airlines (where once the pilots removed wiring to stop the constant unnecessary warnings). Warnings tend to be additive through mission creep and contradictory, meaning too much noise and not enough signal getting through to the end user who lacks the cognitive load to make appropriate actions. Kev (talk) 09:37, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
I agree, the cartoon probably is playing off of the extreme number of weather warnings issued these days. I think I've gotten "extreme heat" warnings for the past week straight, and I can't remember the last time I went a week without some kind of extreme weather warning, like a thunderstorm, fog, heat, cold, ... you know, normal things.162.158.126.34 11:23, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

What a good day to live in East North Carolina. And pleasant weather for anyone who happens to be searching for the Red October!

Did anyone else notice that one of the polygons clips the bottom corner of Texas (and therefore doesn't cover the entire US)?172.69.160.148 14:26, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

This reminds me of California’s ubiquitous proposition 65 warnings, which demonstrate nicely how even good intentioned warnings completely lose their power when used too often. PotatoGod (talk) 00:34, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Table[edit]

Started table, I'll gradually fill it in this weekend. If someone thinks of a way to rearrange it so it looks better, please do so. Also, what color is "Storm Surge Warning"? Searched for it on Google, didn't find anything. Herobrine (talk) 12:06, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Ashfall Warning is either real (e.g. from the Hawaii volcano eruptions last year) or from the Mystborn series of books. 108.162.241.214 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
It's real, see this page listing all the warnings and colors. The link given in the explanation was created by NWS in Texas, so some of them are missing. I'll add the link to the explanation as well. Herobrine (talk) 12:38, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Added colour.[edit]

Makes it pop out a bit more. Made it bold to make it easier to read, and intentionally didn't bold the characters in brackets. I think that is a nice touch. Let me know what you think.The 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭 talk stalk 04:10, 9 October 2020 (UTC)