Talk:2397: I Just Don't Trust Them

Is this a parody of anti-vaxxers? that's what my first thought was, but the way Cueball seems so polite about it just being his opinion makes me think otherwise. --162.158.255.164 01:19, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

It is, but I could definitely see a milder-than-stereotypical "Karen" saying that—I think it'd be more clear on the politeness if Cueball had, y'know, a face. bubblegum-talk|contribs 06:33, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

I say it in only two words: YOU FIRSTSeebert (talk) 18:37, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

There's obviously also some reference about the fantastical idea of 'microchip' injections, which the more Conspiracy Theorising anti-vaxxer will try to suggest. Right now there's nothing in the Explanation about that, but it agrees with the particular fervency of the statement made (before the bait-n-switch, at least). But what currently is said is "Bats, which are unhygeinic (sic) disease-carrying animals rather than rational humans." I'd like to add a real (non-injoke) [Citation Needed] to that 'unhygienic' bit. They do a lot of personal (and social) grooming, and its not lack of hygiene that means they can't handle viral transmission (probably the opposite). Maybe reword it as more obviously tongue-in-cheek, if that was the intention?. 162.158.159.30 02:59, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

There actually _are_ some web pages that would work as a "citation" for lethal things that are "natural", for example, I started one (at <http://map.map-ne.com/Rants/natural.html> for reference) but I'm not really maintaining it, because in researching the info I kept running across other sites that had already done it (and I link to the relevant TVtropes page). MAP (talk) 06:16, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Were you trying for Markdown-style italics? Those are ''…'' double apostrophes (not quotation marks) or <i>…</i> HTML <i> tags.bubblegum-talk|contribs 06:33, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Well, I was habitually typing that because when _I_ started on the net (1974, long before it was the "Internet") that was the way you emphasized things. MAP (talk) 15:34, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

"While it is usually true that what is "natural" is also "healthy", this is not the case anymore in many modern scenarios that have become more commonplace. Of course, far far more modern things are lethal, than natural things are." Oh, come on. Most plants are poisonous, wood fire is very bad for your langs. Also, what exactly does 'natural' mean. Is it natural or not that some people die from viral disease?

I refer you to the George Carlin quote from my page. Everything in existence is, in fact, "natural"! MAP (talk) 15:34, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Natural is definitely wide term. All baryonic matter is natural. Most black holes are natural. Neutrinos are natural. If you really happen to have something unnatural, give it to scientist - it can enhance our understanding of universe by centuries. Also, I believe you need some unnatural (also called exotic) matter to create wormholes. -- Hkmaly (talk) 03:22, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

I believe aluminum salts, formaldehyde, mercury, and nanoparticles all are or were used in vaccines, and are toxic in higher amount. The idea is that the amount present in vaccine is small enough to be safe. Also, at least mercury is being phased out. Generally, vaccines are not supposed to be completely safe - they are supposed to be safer than the illness they are against. -- Hkmaly (talk) 03:22, 13 December 2020 (UTC)