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[[Special:Contributions/172.68.174.44|172.68.174.44]] 17:01, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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Looks like there is a form of electrical discharge that can occur above thunderstorms called a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprite_(lightning) Sprite]
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It actually took me a second to realise this was a new comic, I thought Randal just added different jokes to Wednesday's for some reason. Given the title text, I wonder what projection Randall would use for this scale model... I imagine a projection similar to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Build_the_Earth#Map_projection Build the Earth's modified Airocean] would work for something like this.--[[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.85|172.69.35.85]] 17:12, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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Just for reference and to be checked, I paste here the maths to compute that the panel spans 9 degrees of a great circle:
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> 10/1e3*1e5/6371*180/pi
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[1] 8.993216
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--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 19:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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The ISS game seems very contradictory to the other rules in this and the previous comic. Given that the ISS would be only about 1 mm wide, hitting it with a nerf dart would almost certainly destroy it. [[User:Bischoff|Bischoff]] ([[User talk:Bischoff|talk]]) 19:59, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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:The world is at scale, but people and the artifacts they create don't seem to be. In particular, the wine glasses are normal size relative to the people. So the ISS may be life size, and hitting it with a dart should be trivial. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 06:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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:: At least in the previous comic, the artifacts created by mankind are very much to scale, see weather balloons and skyscrapers. So it stands to reason the ISS is as well. Also, hitting a life size ISS from about 2 meters away hardly seems like a challenging game. Especially since the return time of 90 minutes indicates its speed is also to scale. The wine glasses you mentioned aren't to scale because their not part of the scale model but rather part of the "real world". [[User:Bischoff|Bischoff]] ([[User talk:Bischoff|talk]]) 10:26, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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:Th rules in the other comic along with this one seem entirely for visitor safety rather than preserving anything in the model. There's warnings about standing on cities with "pointy towers" or digging near Yellowstone, implying you're allowed to stand in other cities and dig elsewhere, which would obviously have huge effects on the model.--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.215.60|108.162.215.60]] 23:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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::While you're right about most rules, you're not entirely correct. At least the rules regarding breaking off ice chips and refilling lake Tahoe seem to be solely for preserving the model, since they don't offer any obvious benefit or protection to the visitors. [[User:Bischoff|Bischoff]] ([[User talk:Bischoff|talk]]) 09:52, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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::: At the end of the day the reasons behind the rules don't matter, whoever made the scale world can decide on whichever rules they want! --[[User:NeatNit|NeatNit]] ([[User talk:NeatNit|talk]]) 11:22, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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Is this a duplicate? Looks the same as [[2411: 1/10,000th Scale World]]. [[User:PvOberstein|PvOberstein]] ([[User talk:PvOberstein|talk]]) 20:24, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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:Look better, the scale is different. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.245.47|172.68.245.47]] 20:40, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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<span id="run-fast-enough-go-into-orbit">Correct me if im wrong but if you ran fast enough, could you go into orbit around earth? [[User:Donthaveusername|Donthaveusername]] ([[User talk:Donthaveusername|talk]]) 20:56, 15 January 2\021 (UTC)  </span>
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:This "What If" might help: [https://what-if.xkcd.com/68/ Little Planet] ''(also, I closed your /span tag (not sure why it's there, just following etiquette/not editing your post, while trying to fix a superfluous code-block /div that the wiki was inserting)'' [[User:Elvenivle|Elvenivle]] ([[User talk:Elvenivle|talk]]) 22:40, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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1:1,000,000 scale next? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.39|162.158.74.39]] 23:24, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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:Kind of like the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0 Powers of Ten] short film. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 06:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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:My money's on 10,000:1 scale world next.  [[User:Kev|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev|talk]]) 19:16, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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If visitors in the previous comic get hypoxia unless they crouch regularly, then shouldn't visitors in this comic get hypoxia unless they lie down regularly? However hypoxia would likely negate the need for an intoxicating gas (although the visitors wouldn't be able to enjoy the apparent curvature for long before going unconscious).[[Special:Contributions/162.158.186.220|162.158.186.220]] 00:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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The iss nerf point winning seems to be a reference to the  [https://spaceinvaders.fandom.com/wiki/UFO space invaders UFO]
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I can't get my head around 5oz as a volume, with wine glasses ranging from petite flutes to huge volumes for 'tasting' and/or 'binging' (depending on how much you fill it, and how much air you (don't) leave for it to 'breathe' into). Fluid ounces, I presume, but they mean little to me as everyday practical alternatives to the litre/millilitre and the US often doesn't even use the same measure amounts even when they nominally share a name with imperial so going to look at my own measuring jug probably would mislead me by a significant fraction. Yes, I could look it up, but it's annoying me that I would have to.
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(Also, that glass she's putting icecaps in looks wine-glassy. Either you're icing wine, or using the wrong kind of glass for whisky/whatever.)[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.122|141.101.105.122]] 04:50, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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: I'm not sure about oz, but in Oz (Australia) a "wineglass" as a unit of measurement is apparently half a cup, and as a cup is 200mL, I'm guessing it would be 100mL. I found this out by reading Kerry Greenwood murder mysteries, though, in which someone misreads the measurement as being anything a wine glass can hold. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.178.217|162.158.178.217]] 08:52, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
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The area from the previous comic is visible near mount Everest. It appears to be an exact copy, with the anvil cloud and ocean matching perfectly.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.82|108.162.245.82]] 09:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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Why are there Icecaps on the flat ground so close to mt everest? is it the arctic or am I missing something? didn't think himalaya is THAT far north... --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 10:43, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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:I had that concern about Seattle and Dubai (presumed, at least) in the last comic. ''Might'' just be the peculiar perspective/cross-sectional nature, but otherwise it's going to be a highly accurate but ''jumbled'' model of Earth. (Or a real decimilli-/centimilli-scale planet of its own layout but with its own features named for the Earthly equivalents.) Model villages that cram in the intricately designed working alpine cablecars well within a scale-mile of the busy sea-port, etc, have this problem/solution too. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.84|162.158.155.84]] 13:03, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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How big and fast would meteors be?  Would they actually be dangerous on this scale? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.85|162.158.62.85]] 21:19, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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: nanometer sized grains of dust travelling at 20 to 70 centimeters per second.
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I imagine that Randall could possibly follow these last two entries with a 1:1,000,000 model. Then he could have several characters holding on for dear life while balanced on something like a beach ball. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|talk]]) 04:55, 17 January 2021 (UTC
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if the characters jumped  their heads would be about the equivlent of 200 km up i did the math (assuming the average jump is 1 foot)
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[[User:Sci0927|Sci0927]] ([[User talk:Sci0927|talk]]) 16:30, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 13:59, 22 January 2021

Sprites?

172.68.174.44 17:01, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Looks like there is a form of electrical discharge that can occur above thunderstorms called a Sprite

It actually took me a second to realise this was a new comic, I thought Randal just added different jokes to Wednesday's for some reason. Given the title text, I wonder what projection Randall would use for this scale model... I imagine a projection similar to Build the Earth's modified Airocean would work for something like this.--172.69.35.85 17:12, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Just for reference and to be checked, I paste here the maths to compute that the panel spans 9 degrees of a great circle:

> 10/1e3*1e5/6371*180/pi
[1] 8.993216

--Pere prlpz (talk) 19:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

The ISS game seems very contradictory to the other rules in this and the previous comic. Given that the ISS would be only about 1 mm wide, hitting it with a nerf dart would almost certainly destroy it. Bischoff (talk) 19:59, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

The world is at scale, but people and the artifacts they create don't seem to be. In particular, the wine glasses are normal size relative to the people. So the ISS may be life size, and hitting it with a dart should be trivial. Barmar (talk) 06:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
At least in the previous comic, the artifacts created by mankind are very much to scale, see weather balloons and skyscrapers. So it stands to reason the ISS is as well. Also, hitting a life size ISS from about 2 meters away hardly seems like a challenging game. Especially since the return time of 90 minutes indicates its speed is also to scale. The wine glasses you mentioned aren't to scale because their not part of the scale model but rather part of the "real world". Bischoff (talk) 10:26, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Th rules in the other comic along with this one seem entirely for visitor safety rather than preserving anything in the model. There's warnings about standing on cities with "pointy towers" or digging near Yellowstone, implying you're allowed to stand in other cities and dig elsewhere, which would obviously have huge effects on the model.--108.162.215.60 23:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
While you're right about most rules, you're not entirely correct. At least the rules regarding breaking off ice chips and refilling lake Tahoe seem to be solely for preserving the model, since they don't offer any obvious benefit or protection to the visitors. Bischoff (talk) 09:52, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
At the end of the day the reasons behind the rules don't matter, whoever made the scale world can decide on whichever rules they want! --NeatNit (talk) 11:22, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Is this a duplicate? Looks the same as 2411: 1/10,000th Scale World. PvOberstein (talk) 20:24, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Look better, the scale is different. 172.68.245.47 20:40, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Correct me if im wrong but if you ran fast enough, could you go into orbit around earth? Donthaveusername (talk) 20:56, 15 January 2\021 (UTC)

This "What If" might help: Little Planet (also, I closed your /span tag (not sure why it's there, just following etiquette/not editing your post, while trying to fix a superfluous code-block /div that the wiki was inserting) Elvenivle (talk) 22:40, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

1:1,000,000 scale next? 162.158.74.39 23:24, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Kind of like the Powers of Ten short film. Barmar (talk) 06:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
My money's on 10,000:1 scale world next. Kev (talk) 19:16, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

If visitors in the previous comic get hypoxia unless they crouch regularly, then shouldn't visitors in this comic get hypoxia unless they lie down regularly? However hypoxia would likely negate the need for an intoxicating gas (although the visitors wouldn't be able to enjoy the apparent curvature for long before going unconscious).162.158.186.220 00:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

The iss nerf point winning seems to be a reference to the space invaders UFO

I can't get my head around 5oz as a volume, with wine glasses ranging from petite flutes to huge volumes for 'tasting' and/or 'binging' (depending on how much you fill it, and how much air you (don't) leave for it to 'breathe' into). Fluid ounces, I presume, but they mean little to me as everyday practical alternatives to the litre/millilitre and the US often doesn't even use the same measure amounts even when they nominally share a name with imperial so going to look at my own measuring jug probably would mislead me by a significant fraction. Yes, I could look it up, but it's annoying me that I would have to. (Also, that glass she's putting icecaps in looks wine-glassy. Either you're icing wine, or using the wrong kind of glass for whisky/whatever.)141.101.105.122 04:50, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure about oz, but in Oz (Australia) a "wineglass" as a unit of measurement is apparently half a cup, and as a cup is 200mL, I'm guessing it would be 100mL. I found this out by reading Kerry Greenwood murder mysteries, though, in which someone misreads the measurement as being anything a wine glass can hold. 162.158.178.217 08:52, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

The area from the previous comic is visible near mount Everest. It appears to be an exact copy, with the anvil cloud and ocean matching perfectly.108.162.245.82 09:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Why are there Icecaps on the flat ground so close to mt everest? is it the arctic or am I missing something? didn't think himalaya is THAT far north... --Lupo (talk) 10:43, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

I had that concern about Seattle and Dubai (presumed, at least) in the last comic. Might just be the peculiar perspective/cross-sectional nature, but otherwise it's going to be a highly accurate but jumbled model of Earth. (Or a real decimilli-/centimilli-scale planet of its own layout but with its own features named for the Earthly equivalents.) Model villages that cram in the intricately designed working alpine cablecars well within a scale-mile of the busy sea-port, etc, have this problem/solution too. 162.158.155.84 13:03, 16 January 2021 (UTC)


How big and fast would meteors be? Would they actually be dangerous on this scale? 162.158.62.85 21:19, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

nanometer sized grains of dust travelling at 20 to 70 centimeters per second.

I imagine that Randall could possibly follow these last two entries with a 1:1,000,000 model. Then he could have several characters holding on for dear life while balanced on something like a beach ball. These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For (talk) 04:55, 17 January 2021 (UTC

if the characters jumped their heads would be about the equivlent of 200 km up i did the math (assuming the average jump is 1 foot) Sci0927 (talk) 16:30, 21 January 2021 (UTC)