Editing Talk:2487: Danger Mnemonic

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1) Strangely, I find even the established motherWiki page for the Red Sky motto to be a little short of full explanation. It could do with a diagram to demonstrate how line-of-sight extends one's view beyond the horizon and above surface effects to reveal the nature of the oncoming atmosphere, either imminent (upwind) or historic (downwind, with the implication of an oscillation in the other direction). But, not only that, a sky clear enough to give a good direct red-sky in the Sun's rising/setting direction also will allow Earth-skimming sunlight to red-illuminate the presence of clouds in the opposite direction (with the greater guarantee of 'weather system opposites' east-to-west), enhancing the 'forecast' even further and before/after rising/setting of the Sun as well. Not something to add to the Explanation, but fun to realise. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.152|141.101.98.152]] 08:50, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

2) Perhaps don't use a [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_sky_at_morning web link] to wikipedia when you can use a much more elegant {{w|Red sky at morning|wikilink}}..? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.152|141.101.98.152]] 08:50, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

3) The (''probably'' as apocryphal?) rhyme here is "Beer before wine and you'll feel fine; wine before beer and you'll feel queer", so I leave it up to you to work out what this means for how to ultimately mix your Chateau-Whatever and your no-'e' whisky. ;) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.152|141.101.98.152]] 08:50, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
:So if you combine the two aphorisms, the best order is liquor->beer->wine? I don't drink, so I can't attest to the truth of any of these. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 12:03, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't think the title text is warning against getting drunk, just the particular order of drinks that the old saying warns against. She's already told the kids to "get out of there", you don't want to get sick and stop to vomit. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 12:08, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Do you reckon this is a reference to the current wildfires ... three x dangerous but the colours of red and yellow and a mention of a nature setting ... [[User:Boatster|Boatster]] ([[User talk:Boatster|talk]]) 02:00, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

In the UK I've never heard the first two of these mnemonics- we don't have poison ivy and our only venomous snake is the adder, which has zig-zag markings.  And the weather warning is usually "Red sky at night, shepherd's delight, red sky in the morning, shepherd's warning.  --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.183|162.158.91.183]] 07:33, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
:Watch ''A Perfect Storm'' to see why sailors should be very concerned with upcoming weather. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 19:49, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

<blockquote>"the order in which you drink alcohol is unlikely to impact how sick you become"</blockquote>

Not directly, but it can easily affect ''how much'' you ultimately drink! The reasons you'll get "sicker" drinking beer before liquor are that, after consuming a few drinks (of either type), the alcohol will have numbed your mouth a bit, so that a strong drink no longer tastes as strong, and also that your judgement will have become impaired, making it easier to accidentally overindulge. Now, consider the fact that beer has a much lower concentration of alcohol than liquor has. Therefore, if you start off with beer, and then switch to liquor, you could very easily consume far too much alcohol, whereas if you start off with liquor, and then switch to beer, it becomes much more difficult (though, to be fair, certainly not impossible) to consume significant quantities rapidly, because you'll tend to get physically full after a few beers. Even if you don't have the presence of mind to consciously control your intake, your subconscious mind will stop you from consuming ''anything'' once your stomach is completely full. 

Don't believe me? Try it &mdash; pour yourself a big glass of water and see how quickly you can drink it. Repeat until you feel "full". Then fill that big glass up one more time, and notice how long it takes you to finish it. You'll have a hard time taking more than a small sip at once; your body just won't ''let'' you do more. [[User:Dansiman|Dansiman]] ([[User talk:Dansiman|talk]]) 17:40, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Randell's actally explained the "red sky at night" saying in his book "How Too" ;) [[User:Apollo11|Apollo11]] ([[User talk:Apollo11|talk]]) 22:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC)