Talk:2565: Latency

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Ha! Welcome to my life. Just thought to check if there was a new xkcd yet (at 04:45, GMT) after spending the last five hours messing semi-manually with some geodata. Ok, the first three hours was in the text editor looking at the raw JSON file, and the next two was writing a Perl script to redo everything I had already done (and more, but not yet everything I will eventually want to do) without the fallible human element. Once the fallible human element has polished the script up to account for unforseen circumstances. 172.70.85.73 04:51, 8 January 2022 (UTC)


what is SCAPDFATIAT 172.70.126.87 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

OH what is says in the Comic 172.70.126.87 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
Right, Someone Copies and Pastes From a Thing Into Another Thing 172.70.210.183 05:36, 8 January 2022 (UTC)


I can relate to this. In fact, i use 2 computer screens just for that: I copy data from software X, screen 1 to quickly paste it into software Y, screen 2. 162.158.183.232 06:09, 8 January 2022 (UTC)


I suspect that "cumshots" in the last paragraph is either a (very lame) joke or an incidence of spam. Either way, please remove it! Thanks. 172.69.71.187 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

It was this IP, 172.70.174.169, that was the perpetrator, but it was undone less than 20 minutes later... :-) --Kynde (talk) 17:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Often the reason for the SCAPDFATIAT step is that A Thing has no direct connection to Another Thing. So someone has to design a way for them to communicate to get the human out of the loop. Unless this process is done frequently, it doesn't reach the top of the priority list. Barmar (talk) 13:48, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

There are tools for such automation (they're usually called either workflow or orchestration tools) and have been for decades, but they tend to be really fragile. If the services being orchestrated aren't aware of it, it is very easy for them to change things and break the coordination in a way that just fails silently. BTDT. --172.70.85.73 15:46, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
There are many organizations where such automation workflow just _cannot_ happen because the IT or upper management will ignore the users request to integrate X with Y. Can be due to anything from incompetence, to relying on 3rd party vendors that don't offer any support, to financial reasons ("too expensive"), to power struggles, or all of the above. Ralfoide (talk) 19:01, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
In my experience, company can more easily afford unqualified person spending day on something than me, the programmer, half hour. It gets less clear if the thing needs to happen repeatedly, but still, my time is costly and my list of tasks I need to work on endless. -- Hkmaly (talk) 01:41, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Someone had called this a Bar chart in the transcript. But it is not such a graph. But does this kind of graph have a specific name. Is it a kind of timeline? Or something different or do this not even have a specific name? I have deleted the bar graph from the now complete transcript (except if there is a better name for this type of graph.) --Kynde (talk) 17:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

I personally hate customer service bots that reply within a split second, instead of within a working day. I tend to contact customer service for problems that cannot be resolved by finding a word that happens to be found in the FAQ and sending me the FAQ entry that contains it --Gunterkoenigsmann (talk) 02:59, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

To me this comic is the perfect prologue for 1319: Automation. Bischoff (talk) 07:16, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

(first time editing, please forgive etiquette violations) Note that having a human in the loop is not always a sign of outdated processes and sometimes plays a very real safety and security role (either intentional or historical/coincidental). In terms of security, a human will interrupt code injection attemps or other attacks. In terms of safety, a human will (in most instances) use their judgement to avoid propagating failures. Replacing humans by automation is possible but requires a thorough exercise regarding security/safety and might involve tools much more complex than copy-paste. An example can be taken from Airbus ECAM messages: the computer detects a failure and suggests a course of action to the pilot - it does not fulfil the action itself, and this is the reason why.

See also 1205: Is It Worth the Time? Esherril (talk) 16:06, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

This is one reason it is nice to have a job that you honestly understand and isn't being closely monitored. If you can even partially automate a process like this, you can reduce your workload and increase your productivity, freeing time for more valuable tasks. Just be sure no one finds out you've changed your job title from data entry technician to macro babysitter. 172.70.174.43 17:01, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Countdown

Keep post about this comic above, and use this link for further discussion on the countdown! --Kynde (talk) 22
48, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

What is happening around Feb 1st, there is a countdown that appeared a few hours ago in the upper right corner of the xkcd index. There is also the directory xkcd.com/count-wimRikmef which might be an acronym, if it isnt a countdown package? 172.70.130.57 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Damn you beat me to it ;-). But I have made a Trivia here on this comics page and links to more detail on the xkcd Header text page. I belie you are a day of, but someone will likely correct me if I'm wrong. As I can see it will be January 31st, 9:59 in Randall's home town Boston.--Kynde (talk) 20:06, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
But damned if I can wait. Sure millions will watch the page when it goes to zero! At least it is no April 1st. :-D --Kynde (talk) 20:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
This is pretty close to the projected time that the JWST is to arrive in L2 orbit, according to [1]

It is the start of Korean New Year (Feb 1, 2022) in Korea (one hour before Chinese New Year in China).

Please move further discussion here
Talk:2566:_Decorative_Constants#Count_down_clock
As this comic just came up and will be on the front two days now. --Kynde (talk) 22:46, 10 January 2022 (UTC)