Talk:2653: Omnitaur

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Do people thing Omnitaur meant to be a anagram? It would make more sense to me suffix taken from minotaur and centaur etc. with the prefix omni meaning all. Mouse (talk) Mousetail

I don't think it is meant to be an anagram. Nevertheless it is one. But that's just my gut feeling. Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 07:07, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
There are only those two taurs mentioned and there are many other creatures made from animals with different name. It has both human and bull in it (I know it has all the others as well), but to me it seems obvious that Randall is aware this is an anagram of Mino to Omni. And then of course it encompasses most other mythical creatures, given the meanin of Omni. --Kynde (talk) 08:16, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
True, surely he's aware of it. My point is: It's either an anagram that also happens to have the meaning "omni" or it has the meaning "omni" and also happens to be an anagram. My bet is on the latter. Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 10:42, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

I dread to think what this thing must look like internally. Especially when I remember the centaurs from C S Lewis' 'Narnia' stories, who are depicted eating two meals - a huge roast meal "to satisfy the man stomach" and a meal of grass "to satisfy the horse stomach". Bleagh.MarquisOfCarrabass (talk) 07:32, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Well it certainly is an Omnivore (does that mean eating only Omnitaurs then...? :-D ) --Kynde (talk) 08:16, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

If we take a looser definition of 'omnitaur' as meaning 'made of lots of different creatures' (in parallel to how 'omnivore' really means 'eats lots of different things' rather than literally 'eats everything', and in line with only 11 creatures being depicted), then arguably every creature is an omnitaur - it's just that most of them are special cases that happen to be made up of a lot of very similar creatures. 172.70.162.77 09:15, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

1/121 seems nonsense to me. Assume this omnitaur has fairly standard genetics: 11 allele pairs for the several body parts with recessivity being random. All parts must have one human allele (which happens to be recessive), 1/11^10. The human allele must be picked, 1/2^11. More like a trillion chance... 172.71.98.193 10:10, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

I was just going to post a question: why not (1/11)11? 172.70.214.43 10:20, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
How on earth is that "standard"? Nitpicking (talk) 11:32, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Sitting in a rejected-edits file of mine (because I couldn't see how to make it good enough to escape a general nitpick... though not your presence in particular) is the following, that might have been superceded by the Speculations section that was added since:
In order for two omnitaur genomes to contain the possibility of merging to create a full human, maybe the genetic material is not diploid, but undecaploid (at the very least), leading to each omnitaur to express their own individual and personal distribution of phenotypes from amongst the many heritable traits they have inherited. The reproductive compatibility of any two omnitaurs would be a crap-shoot and might influence what given 'monotaurism' might arise by chance.
...be a shame to waste it, but it doesn't really fit as is now, even if I 'correct' it. 108.162.229.75 15:06, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Note: you can't call sharks "fish" without also calling humans, frogs, and eagles "fish" (if you're using the current taxonomic system based on cladistics). The cartilaginous fishes split from bony fishes long before the tetrapods like us split off from the lineage that became trout, flounder, and guppies. That is, a snake is much more closely related to a grouper than a shark is. Nitpicking (talk) 11:32, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

According to California courts, bees are fish. (Spoiler: within the meaning of "Fish and Game" or something like that. Personally I think the judges were trolling because they could have more congruously gone with "game" because it was about honeybees which beekeepers obviously catch.) 172.70.206.95 13:42, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Fish are a paraphyletic group, but that doesn't make the group "wrong" by cladistics. Cladistics recognizes that its common for one branch of a group to go off and do something very divergent, and that the remaining members often have a lot of shared characteristics that make it useful to talk about them. For example, "stem mammals", which excludes actual mammals. Cladistics has stronger objections to polyphyly, which is grouping animals together that aren't a cladistic group with some very clear exceptions. It still recognizes the groups though, classifying them as polyphyletic groups. 172.71.82.121 13:47, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
^ This editor paraphyletizes. 172.70.206.163 14:40, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

The speculation section needs a discussion of how living turducken could be engineered. 172.70.211.88 11:44, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Being able to do that would be a great lab qual, but when the spacefairing dinosaurs find out we use them for the culinary arts, is there any hope for galactic peace? 172.70.210.145 16:15, 2 August 2022 (UTC)