Editing Talk:1539: Planning

''One thousand likes to nuke... say, Malawi. Or Malibu.''

Wouldn't it be scarier if it all turned out to be according to someone's plan? Would it be better if things were? Do your politics jive with your answer?[[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.54|108.162.229.54]] 12:14, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I think nuclear weapons of soviet union are in bad hands no matter if accounted for or not. The shortage of good hands in russia seems more acute than in US. I mean, even the US nuclear weapons are more scary than google, but if google would somehow get the soviet union nuclear weapons, I would consider it improvement. At least they would no longer need to censor the searches ... -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 12:30, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
:Seriously you've read too many creepypastas, seriously. [[User:Miguelinileugim|Miguelinileugim]] ([[User talk:Miguelinileugim|talk]])
::Well maybe it is a {{w|Creepypasta}} but it is not much better that Putin has them under control than some Bellasarus tyrant... etc. But do you really think that there was full control of all nuclear weapons in Russia and the other states after the breakdown of USSR? I do not... But fair enough to take it out of the explanation. It can be stated down here as personal opinions. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:50, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I read Megan's comment differently. The explanation seems to paint it as a ''"Why don't you care about this instead?"''. I read it as ''"People are stupid. Here's another example of people being stupid"'' [[User:Jdluk|Jdluk]] ([[User talk:Jdluk|talk]]) 13:28, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
:I fully agree, and nowhere does she say she finds it more disturbing. [[Special:Contributions/198.41.239.37|198.41.239.37]] 13:34, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
::I also agree now I have seen your comment, and have corrected my explanation accordingly --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:50, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't quite agree with the ''second'' part of the explanation text: ''"this kind of big-picture planning actually doesn't exist ... This is of course a scary thought,..."'' As the first commenter mentioned, it would be scarier if there was such planning of the lack of care and handling for the consequences -- the arms race was planned, the consequences probably not so much. It's on auto-pilot, or otherwise said "it will be someone else's problem... later". <br>
However denuclearization has been a topic even since 1946 (see the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Plan Baruch Plan]). It's just that WMD are old news and media outlets will likely prefer to highlight the "threat" of Google and Facebook on people's lives. Draws more headlines and it's easier with a subject that common people can easily understand, as they read one-liner news feeds while tweeting about their latest cappuccino, pin their location in foursquare and then continue on reading on how much their activities can be followed. <br>
Not to mention as with some of Randall's strips, I have the feeling the comic is just a prelude for the title text punch line. [[User:Ralfoide|Ralfoide]] ([[User talk:Ralfoide|talk]]) 16:34, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

== Explanation styles ==

Why are so many explanations lately just paraphrasing of the text in the comic -- it does not offer any explanation at all.  The above explanation can be cut down to two lines. [[User:Spongebog|Spongebog]] ([[User talk:Spongebog|talk]]) 17:25, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
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 :Seriously you've read too many creepypastas, seriously. [[User:Miguelinileugim|Miguelinileugim]] ([[User talk:Miguelinileugim|talk]])
 ::Well maybe it is a {{w|Creepypasta}} but it is not much better that Putin has them under control than some Bellasarus tyrant... etc. But do you really think that there was full control of all nuclear weapons in Russia and the other states after the breakdown of USSR? I do not... But fair enough to take it out of the explanation. It can be stated down here as personal opinions. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:50, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
-::Anyone from Ukraine here to comment that? -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 14:25, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 I read Megan's comment differently. The explanation seems to paint it as a ''"Why don't you care about this instead?"''. I read it as ''"People are stupid. Here's another example of people being stupid"'' [[User:Jdluk|Jdluk]] ([[User talk:Jdluk|talk]]) 13:28, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
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 Not to mention as with some of Randall's strips, I have the feeling the comic is just a prelude for the title text punch line. [[User:Ralfoide|Ralfoide]] ([[User talk:Ralfoide|talk]]) 16:34, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
-There's an irony in that both the arms race was planned and the consequences were planned, to a degree. The RAND Corporation (no relation whatsoever to Ayn Rand) was responsible for a lot of long-term nuclear planning, and to a degree, is still involved in The Business. In fact, they were satirized by Dr. Strangelove as the "Bland Corporation", and the famous RAND analyst named Hermann Kahn was Kubrick's technical consultant. Nuclear planning wasn't and isn't unconscious, but the irony is that Randall is still right in that we have and still do hand over a lot of our thinking to corporations.
+== Explanation styles ==
-[[User:NuclearStudent|NuclearStudent]] ([[User talk:NuclearStudent|talk]]) 04:11, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[[User:NuclearStudent|NuclearStudent]] ([[User talk:NuclearStudent|talk]]) 4:18, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
-;Explanation styles
 Why are so many explanations lately just paraphrasing of the text in the comic -- it does not offer any explanation at all.  The above explanation can be cut down to two lines. [[User:Spongebog|Spongebog]] ([[User talk:Spongebog|talk]]) 17:25, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
-I thought the Title Text was one of those "bread, eggs, breaded eggs" jokes (would link to TVTropes if I knew how).[[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.103|108.162.221.103]] 14:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
-I also think it's inappropiate to just describe what happens in the comic. A proper explanation should include details about what the comic ''means'', not only what it ''says''. I've rewritten everything up to the part about the title text in an attempt to fix that. Hope it looks better now. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.249|108.162.229.249]] 12:11, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
-:Great that you improved the explanation, instead of just complaining about it. ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:56, 19 June 2015 (UTC)