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Often water in spring (up hill) has better quality than in stream or river (down in the valley) --[[User:JakubNarebski|JakubNarebski]] ([[User talk:JakubNarebski|talk]]) 14:23, 30 March 2016 (UTC) | Often water in spring (up hill) has better quality than in stream or river (down in the valley) --[[User:JakubNarebski|JakubNarebski]] ([[User talk:JakubNarebski|talk]]) 14:23, 30 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
:The ground water table tends to be really close to ground on legs of a hill, so it's an ideal place to dig a well, in some places just a mand-made pond about a feet deep is all that is needed, in which case it's called a spring. {{unsigned ip|141.101.80.76}} | :The ground water table tends to be really close to ground on legs of a hill, so it's an ideal place to dig a well, in some places just a mand-made pond about a feet deep is all that is needed, in which case it's called a spring. {{unsigned ip|141.101.80.76}} | ||
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:Because she's a child. Children often use incorrect grammar of that kind. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.82|141.101.98.82]] 20:02, 30 March 2016 (UTC) | :Because she's a child. Children often use incorrect grammar of that kind. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.82|141.101.98.82]] 20:02, 30 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
::I think many kids will say it like that in spite them being told by their parents (repeatedly) to not name them selves first. But by letting Jill speak like this, he just let them be ordinary children. How many small kids do you actually hear say ''Jack and I will go up the hill'', instead of ''Me and Jack will go up the hill''? I think it would be more strange had he done it the other way, so yet I think it was on purpose, but only for the purpose or realism, not to hide any meaning... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:12, 30 March 2016 (UTC) (When first posting this it resulted in a posting conflict with the above comment, so won't change even though saying basically the same as it was a reply to the one above before the other one was posted.) | ::I think many kids will say it like that in spite them being told by their parents (repeatedly) to not name them selves first. But by letting Jill speak like this, he just let them be ordinary children. How many small kids do you actually hear say ''Jack and I will go up the hill'', instead of ''Me and Jack will go up the hill''? I think it would be more strange had he done it the other way, so yet I think it was on purpose, but only for the purpose or realism, not to hide any meaning... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:12, 30 March 2016 (UTC) (When first posting this it resulted in a posting conflict with the above comment, so won't change even though saying basically the same as it was a reply to the one above before the other one was posted.) | ||
− | :This is actually an extremely common mistake, by native English speakers of all ages, such that it is frequently used in popular media (movies, TV, etc), often corrected by someone. And despite this correction frequently showing up, people still make this mistake, to the point where many people consider it "correct enough". I've seen this "me and him" grammatical mistake portrayed so often that I've even picked up a rule of thumb offered by some of these portrayals: Take the other person out, does it still make sense? "Me am going up the hill". This format is so common that it is less an error and more casual speaking, on par with words like "ain't", "gonna" and "gotta". In fact, saying the correct "Jack and I" can even sound odd, it's so rare. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/173.245.52.64|173.245.52.64]] 02:32, 1 April 2016 | + | :This is actually an extremely common mistake, by native English speakers of all ages, such that it is frequently used in popular media (movies, TV, etc), often corrected by someone. And despite this correction frequently showing up, people still make this mistake, to the point where many people consider it "correct enough". I've seen this "me and him" grammatical mistake portrayed so often that I've even picked up a rule of thumb offered by some of these portrayals: Take the other person out, does it still make sense? "Me am going up the hill". This format is so common that it is less an error and more casual speaking, on par with words like "ain't", "gonna" and "gotta". In fact, saying the correct "Jack and I" can even sound odd, it's so rare. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/173.245.52.64|173.245.52.64]] 02:32, 1 April 2016 (UTC) |
The poem doesn't necessarily indicate that the water or well was located atop a hill, merely that they had to scale a hill to reach it. It could simply mean that the water source is beyond the hill in question. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.242.129|108.162.242.129]] 17:49, 30 March 2016 (UTC) | The poem doesn't necessarily indicate that the water or well was located atop a hill, merely that they had to scale a hill to reach it. It could simply mean that the water source is beyond the hill in question. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.242.129|108.162.242.129]] 17:49, 30 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
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− | + | == What happened to Friday's comic == | |
I know they don't happen at 00:00 GMT, but it's now 19:44 GMT/20:44 BST and no new comic. | I know they don't happen at 00:00 GMT, but it's now 19:44 GMT/20:44 BST and no new comic. | ||
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::and has been delayed until Sunday night. | ::and has been delayed until Sunday night. | ||
:So nothing for this weekend. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 17:28, 2 April 2016 (UTC) | :So nothing for this weekend. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 17:28, 2 April 2016 (UTC) | ||
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Is it possible that the April joke is the banner and the absent comic? I propose a new wiki page is created for comic 1663 (April 1st), containing the banner and discussion about where the comic has gone. | Is it possible that the April joke is the banner and the absent comic? I propose a new wiki page is created for comic 1663 (April 1st), containing the banner and discussion about where the comic has gone. | ||
[[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.125|141.101.104.125]] 14:02, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Wilhelm | [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.125|141.101.104.125]] 14:02, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Wilhelm | ||
− | :I have thought about it, but I think we should await the next comic on Monday before creating any pages. It could of course be, I would think it was a poor April fool's joke especially since it is still up on the 2nd of April. And he would let down his fans... But of course he has done one such [[404|meta comics]] before, but that was not in stead of another comic. And if this is the April joke, but the comic on | + | :I have thought about it, but I think we should await the next comic on Monday before creating any pages. It could of course be, I would think it was a poor April fool's joke especially since it is still up on the 2nd of April. And he would let down his fans... But of course he has done one such [[404|meta comics]] before, but that was not in stead of another comic. And if this is the April joke, but the comic on Monday is called 1663 then it would be stupid to have called this "one" 1663. I have some screen shots of the first status update and then as it looks now. These can be used either in the explanation when the comic comes up, or if there never will be a comic. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:27, 2 April 2016 (UTC) |
− | + | == Jeff's banner == | |
− | + | This is off topic, but I noticed the banner from Jeff about 100 million views to the site! I followed the original explainxkcd site for about a year before the Wiki was created. If it's been going for 6 years then 100 million views would be an average of about 46,000 views per day and about 107,000 views per comic! Does anyone know when this Wiki was created?! I also know this average is misleading. Does anybody know what the current number of views per day is? Averaged over the last year for example?[[User:ExternalMonologue|ExternalMonologue]] ([[User talk:ExternalMonologue|talk]]) 00:53, 2 April 2016 (UTC) | |
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Am I the only one who got a sense of foreboding in the third panel and was expecting Megan to stop or dissuade the kids from this dangerous activity, rather than wondering about hydrology. I thought that was the joke here - most people would think of stopping the kids and saving them from broken crown and tumbling-related injuries, while Megan goes on a tangent about hydrology.. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.46.214|162.158.46.214]] 02:51, 2 April 2016 (UTC) | Am I the only one who got a sense of foreboding in the third panel and was expecting Megan to stop or dissuade the kids from this dangerous activity, rather than wondering about hydrology. I thought that was the joke here - most people would think of stopping the kids and saving them from broken crown and tumbling-related injuries, while Megan goes on a tangent about hydrology.. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.46.214|162.158.46.214]] 02:51, 2 April 2016 (UTC) | ||
:I did not, she is not supposed to know the rhyme and would thus not know that they are supposed to fall down. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 05:32, 2 April 2016 (UTC) | :I did not, she is not supposed to know the rhyme and would thus not know that they are supposed to fall down. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 05:32, 2 April 2016 (UTC) | ||
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