Editing Talk:2578: Sword Pull

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I was going to opine that the title text should have said "mini bike" instead of "dirt bike" since the former is usually started by a recoil pull rope and the latter by a kick start.  But I guess technically neither one is started by a magic sword so kind of a toss up. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.221|172.70.126.221]] 22:48, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Pat
:I know nothing of these machines but a quick google search brought me to [https://www.funbikes.co.uk/sc67_pull-start-parts this page] with three items listed as "Dirt Bike Pull Start" so seems that is a thing? --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:56, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
There is a pun with dirt mound / mount.

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I though the sword belongs to {{w|Lady of the Lake}} ... -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 23:29, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
:The sword from the stone (proof of lineage/fate) really should be considered differently from the one from the lake ("strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government<sup>      ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88DZhwKqHM4 Citation])</sup>", but they do tend to be conflated by some versions of the storytelling. The various myths were already that confused/contradictory/clashing centuries ago. (Some versions have Excalibur drawn from the stone to start his destiny, but ultimately then have him (...have a trusted but reluctant knight to) 'return' it to the Lady Of The Lake, from whence it presumably came (before being set in the stone), at the end of his life.)
:But I choose to go with the strand of canon that says that the 'kingmaker' sword was separate, got broken in a personal combat he should not rightfully have fought, and that only after reparations for the incident was he directed to go receive Excalibur, as its replacement, from its watery source.
:Really though, it probably is all a mistelling (and probably very Freudian, in every way!) of what never quite happened anyway. Except for the version where the time-traveller does the setting up of the contest with tidally-powered electromagnets and possibly an unintended recipient of the legend made true... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.79|172.70.85.79]] 00:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

::I thought Lancelot (possibly one of the others?) received Excalibur as a proof of valor, and chose to pass it on to his king as a sign of respect; no longer the knight whose pride in his own virtue stops him bowing to a higher authority. Guess there's more versions than I know. ''Returning'' the sword I remember; but I thought he originally obtained it second hand, so the Lady accepting the sword back was the final proof that he had been worthy to have it. [[User:Angel|Angel]] ([[User talk:Angel|talk]]) 02:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

:::Honestly, there are so many versions of the story, and so many unrelated stories merged into it, that it's probably impossible to identify the "canonical" version. Monty Python's version is no less valid than Geoffrey of Monmouth's. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.187.228|162.158.187.228]] 16:02, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Merlin is a brand of motorcycle produced in Spain from 1980-1984. [[User:KingPenguin|KingPenguin]] ([[User talk:KingPenguin|talk]]) 01:36, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

:Wow, I heard of them but didn't realise the brand was so short-lived. [[User:Angel|Angel]] ([[User talk:Angel|talk]]) 02:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

"Dirt bike" could also be interpreted as an -apparently motorized- bike made of dirt. [[User:Condor70|Condor70]] ([[User talk:Condor70|talk]]) 16:25, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Anyone else reminded of the weird moving rocks in Chronicles of Amber? The ones Random rode out of Chaos?
I mean, the comic is probably not a reference to that (doesn't need to be in the explanation or anything), but still, similar vibe. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.250.249|172.70.250.249]] 21:47, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
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 I was going to opine that the title text should have said "mini bike" instead of "dirt bike" since the former is usually started by a recoil pull rope and the latter by a kick start.  But I guess technically neither one is started by a magic sword so kind of a toss up. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.126.221|172.70.126.221]] 22:48, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Pat
 :I know nothing of these machines but a quick google search brought me to [https://www.funbikes.co.uk/sc67_pull-start-parts this page] with three items listed as "Dirt Bike Pull Start" so seems that is a thing? --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:56, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
-::I just thought it was a motor boat. Those pull start, and are partially submerged in the substrate. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.234|108.162.250.234]] 09:57, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
 There is a pun with dirt mound / mount.
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 Anyone else reminded of the weird moving rocks in Chronicles of Amber? The ones Random rode out of Chaos?
 I mean, the comic is probably not a reference to that (doesn't need to be in the explanation or anything), but still, similar vibe. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.250.249|172.70.250.249]] 21:47, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
-:I was reminded instead of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing_stones moving rocks in Death Valley], which further reminded me of [[505:_A_Bunch_of_Rocks]].  There aren't many xkcd comics that contain stones as a focus object.  (I forgot to sign my comment, [[Special:Contributions/172.70.178.25|172.70.178.25]] 23:25, 9 February 2022 (UTC).)
-::I was actually reminded of a clip from Spongebob Squarepants. "It's not just a boulder, it's a Rock! Pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!"--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.146.45|162.158.146.45]] 11:10, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
-:I don't think it was Chaos. Well, not Court of Chaos. Obviously, there are lot of different places under control of Court of Chaos, so it could be one of them, but if I remember correctly we never got full explanation of who was behind what, and even if we did, it's not like we could trust it. In fact, I don't think we can trust Corwin to not alter the story before telling Roger. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 22:18, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
-Did the title change? I see "Sword Pull" now, Feb 11. {{unsigned ip|172.70.214.81}}
-:I don't know if I'm missing something, but please explain what you thought it was before. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.116|172.70.91.116]] 19:30, 11 February 2022 (UTC)