2122: Size Venn Diagram

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Size Venn Diagram

Title text: Terms I'm going to start using: The Large Dipper, great potatoes, the Big Hadron Collider, and Large Orphan Annie.

Explanation

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Branko Grünbaum's multi-set Venn diagram strategy from 1975, less symmetric than Randall's.

This comic is a Venn diagram illustrating the complete set of possible intersections of five different size adjectives: "little", "large", "small", "great" and “big”. Each unique intersection contains a short list of nouns that can be preceded by each of its intersecting adjectives.

For example, "flying fox" (a type of bat) appears at the intersection of "large", "small", and "great", because the species large flying fox, small flying fox, and great flying fox all exist, but there is no such species as a "big flying fox" or a "little flying fox". Similarly, humans have organs named the small intestine and large intestine, but no "little intestine", "great intestine", or "big intestine".

Some descriptors are applied in combination to their noun, rather than individually; for example, "planet" is placed in both the "little" and "big" groups in reference to the 2008 video game Little Big Planet.

In the title text, Randall declares that he will start intentionally using term combinations that don't appear in the above diagram, presumably to entertain himself while confusing people.

A similar concept can be seen in 181: Interblag, but in a tabular form rather than a Venn diagram.

List of items in the diagram

The following table lists all size/noun combinations that the Venn diagram can generate, with a description of each.

Item	Big	Great	Large	Little	Small
Aunt		sister of one's grandparent
Bang Theory	currently-accepted scientific theory that explains the origin of the universe; also a TV sitcom
Barrier Reef		world's largest coral reef system, off the coast of Australia
Bear Lake	a lake and surrounding community in California, in the mountains	a lake in Canada, in the Northwest Territories -- the largest lake entirely in Canada, and the fourth-largest in North America
Bend	several geographic locations, including a US National Park in Texas	several geographic locations, including a city in Kansas and the description of the S-shaped curving of the Nile River in Egypt and Sudan
Billed Seed Finch		species of finch, described in 1851	species of finch, described in 1789
Blue	nickname for IBM and the New York Giants, also a movie and a stage in F-Zero and borrowed into Mario Kart		various different butterflies		butterfly, smallest found in the UK
Blue Heron		species of heron that measures 91–137 cm (36–54 in) long		species of heron that measures about 60 cm (24 in) long
Board	nickname for the New York Stock Exchange
Cardiac Vein		left coronary vein			heart vein on the right side
Circle		largest possible circle that can be drawn on a sphere; the equator is an example of one on the Earth		The Little Circle, a group of political reformists based in Manchester, UK in the early 1800s	a circle that lies on a sphere without passing through its center (which would make it a great circle)
Claims Court					judicial court that handles cases involving only relatively small amounts of money
enchilada	important person
Depression		period of prolonged economic downturn that affected the world economy in the 1930's
Dipper	subset collection of stars in the constellation Ursa Major			name for the constellation Ursa Minor
Emerald			Geometra papilionaria, a bright green moth of the family Geometridae	Jodis lactearia, a light green or white moth of the family Geometridae	Hemistola chrysoprasaria, a light green or yellow-white moth of the family Geometridae
End	The bearing connecting a connecting rod to the crank shaft of a reciprocating engine.	Mountain in England			The bearing connecting a connecting rod to the gudgeon pin and hence the piston in a reciprocating engine.
Eyed Conger	type of eel, found in the western Pacific Ocean		type of eel, found in the northwestern and eastern central Pacific Ocean		type of eel, found in the eastern Indian Ocean
Flying Fox		Great flying fox	Large flying fox		Small flying fox
Foot	The well known folk-lore monster Bigfoot			Main character in the Land Before Time film series	Smallfoot is an animated film that inverts the Bigfoot legend, focusing on a group of yetis that tell stories about humans.
Forest Bat			A common bat found in Southeastern Australia	A related bat also found in Southeastern Australia
Format			anything larger than 4x5 inches in photography
Foundation	The BIG Foundation is a 501c3 non-profit charity	May be a reference to Asimov’s Greater Foundation	?
Frog	Refers to someone who is important but only in a small group (Big frog in a small pond)		?	children's book "The Little Frog" by Crista R. Stewart	An Australian frog species
Game	Large animals hunted for sport or food, usually referring to the African big five game (lion, leopard, rhinoceros, elephant, cape buffalo); can also refer to the NFL's Super Bowl	19th Century geopolitical competition between the British and Russian Empires over control of Afghanistan	Large animals hunted for sport or food, such as bears or moose		Small animals hunted for sport or food, such as rabbits or ducks
Hadron Collider			particle accelerator
Hearted	kind, generous, selfless, noble	generous, selfless, noble	generous, benevolent, noble
House on the Prairie				novel (later made into a TV show)
Intestine			The Large Intestine or colon is the last part of the digestive system.		The Small Intestine is the part of the gastrointestinal tract (gut) immediately after the stomach, where most absorption of nutrients takes place
Island	largest island in Hawaii, or numerous other islands: Big Island	in Cork Harbour, Ireland	island in the Antilles, owned by Grenada	several islands named such, plus a song in Randy Newman's Faust	novel which was made into a movie
League	Nickname for top-level competition	One of the leagues in Pokemon Go		Youth baseball organization
Lies	Big Little Lies, a novel made into a TV series; also a form of propaganda			Big Little Lies, a novel made into a TV series; also a Fleetwood Mac song
Magellanic Cloud			A satellite galaxy of the Milky Way		Another satellite galaxy of the Milky Way
Millimeter Telescope			radio telescope
One	Nickname for any large natural disaster that is expected to happen in the future, such as a tsunami or an earthquake in California	Nickname for Wayne Gretzky, considered by many to be the greatest ice hockey player of all time, also comedian Jackie Gleason and many other people (Wikipedia disambiguation page).		affectionate term for a small person	A Disney animated short directed by Don Bluth
Orphan Annie				comic strip
Planet	Part of the video game Little Big Planet			Part of the video game Little Big Planet
Potatoes					something relatively unimportant
Pox		an old name for syphilis			a deadly disease which was effectively eradicated by 1977
Professor			rap artist	educational math toy (also "Little Professor Syndrome", an informal name for autism)
Richard				musician
Room		a McMansion's signature space		Track 6 on "White Blood Cells," the third album by The White Stripes	"The Small Room", a novel by May Sarton, also various songs: Small Room
Screen	another name for movies				another name for TV
Sister	older female sibling			younger female sibling
Soldiers				1996 Telugu drama film	1998 movie about sentient animated toys at war
Sur	coastal region of California famed for its mountain scenery
Terror		One of two periods of violent political repression; one during the French Revolution between 1793 and 1794, the other in the Soviet Union under Josef Stalin between 1936 and 1938
Time	major, the highest level of a field				minor, or modest, level of achievement
Toothed Aspen	A tree native to North America		Another name for the same tree
Wall of China		Series of fortifications over 13,000 miles long that served to protect various Chinese empires from raids and invasion from their north
White	ski resort in British Columbia	species of shark or a rock band	a butterfly or a common breed of pig		multiple species of butterflies are known as small whites
Wonder				"Little Wonder" is a song and single by David Bowie, from the 1997 album Earthling.	American sitcom
World	Australian company BigWorld which develops development tools for MMOs; also a 1986 live album by Joe Jackson.	Reference to either Great World City or Great World Amusement Park, a Chinese shopping mall or amusement park, respectively		A 2013 Catalan documentary film	Board game by Days of Wonder, ride at Disney parks, type of mathematical graph.
Item	Big	Great	Large	Little	Small

Transcript

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Big: Bang Theory, Enchilada, Board, Sur

Little: Orphan Annie, House on the Prairie, Richard

Large: format, Millimeter Telescope, Hadron Collider

Small: claims court, potatoes

Great: Barrier Reef, Wall of China, Depression, Terror, aunt

Big/Great: Bend, Bear Lake

Big/Small: time, screen

Big/Little: Dipper, Planet, lies, sister

Little/Great: Blue Heron

Little/Large: Professor, Forest Bat

Big/Large: Toothed Aspen

Large/Small: intestine, Magellanic Cloud

Little/Small: wonder, soldiers

Small/Great: pox, cardiac vein

Large/Great: Billed Seed Finch

Big/Large/Great: hearted

Big/Small/Great: end

Big/Little/Small: foot

Big/Little/Great: league

Little/Large/Great: (none)

Big/Little/Large: foundation

Big/Large/Small: Eyed Conger, Blue

Little/Large/Small: emerald

Little/Small/Great: circle, room

Large/Small/Great: flying fox

Big/Large/Small/Great: game, white

Big/Little/Small/Great : world, one

Big/Little/Large/Great : (none)

Big/Little/Large/Small : frog

Little/Large/Small/Great : (none)

Big/Little/Large/Small/Great: Island

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Discussion

The word league is in a diamond-shaped region, which probably connotes to the baseball diamond.

I think Randall kind of missed an opportunity with the title text: he should have used the new terms as a way to fill the blank areas in the diagram, for instance 'Great Emerald' for the currently empty set Great+Small+Little+Large.141.101.99.221 14:31, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

No, I think the diagram itself is meant to be completely correct. But I didn't check all 100+ combinations. Fabian42 (talk) 14:57, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I believe the diagram is correct now, but as per the title text Randall will start using new combinations of terms, probably to get their usage mainstream and move the location of the words in the diagram. I'm saying he should have created terms that would fill some blank areas. For instance, his Large Dipper would make Dipper appear in the Big+Little+Large area where we already have League.141.101.99.95 15:16, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

I understood what you said (the first time around) and agree. Randall's title text is to acknowledge or engage the patterns he's discovered in the comic (as usual), and he could do that more thoroughly by making up words that would make the chart more balanced. 162.158.78.100 16:27, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

I think his choices are an attempt to complete the table: Large Orphan Annie fills in the triangle-ish at one o'clock, Large Dipper fills in the rectangle-ish area at one o'clock, though he seems to have failed to fill in the rectangle-ish area at six-o'clock 162.158.62.63 19:45, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

He could also have placed “man” between “little” and “big” just to reference the movie ☺

Any such diagram will inevitably have small lacunae. But "Friendly Giant" is a particularly large one. 162.158.63.172 15:21, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Endian? Scott? Tits?108.162.219.112 15:23, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, what about Little Endian? It's missing! 172.68.143.156 19:28, 11 March 2019 (UT

"Endian" would go in the "Big/Little" area, which already has "Dipper", "Lies", "Planet" and "Sister"; no room...

Besides the transcript of what's in each category, what about a table to explain why the items categorized as they are, like:

Item	Big	Great	Large	Little	Small
Island	Hawaii	Cork Harbor, Ireland	Antilles	movie	novel, movie
Pox	n/a	syphilis	n/a	n/a	disease
White	BC ski resort	shark	pig	n/a	butterfly

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Yeah, it seems reasonable, I like it. Add it Netherin5 (talk) 15:57, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Second but leave the unused cells blank dont put N/A in the cell. M (talk) 16:15, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

I don't know why, but the shape of this diagram feels really satisfying to me. Hawthorn (talk) 16:29, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

For me it’s just hard to look at. Netherin5 (talk) 16:41, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Came here to say exactly that. The symmetry is really pleasing. I've been considering how effective adding colours would be as well. Cosmogoblin (talk) 17:55, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

I beg to differ. xkcd finally went pear-shaped. (runs for his life) 162.158.89.223 11:44, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

It looks like these style Venn diagrams are generated by http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be/webtools/Venn/ ... haven't tried it myself. Don't know if they invented it or took it from elsewhere. 162.158.79.149 21:17, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

This particular geometric configuration for five category Venn diagrams was popularized by Adrian Dusa's venn package for R. 172.68.142.179 17:55, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

I would expect color to help a lot. I'm somewhere in between Netherin and Hawthorn's opinion. There is definite elegance to the shapes and their interaction, but trying to figure out which three pears overlap a word box can go crosseyed really fast.172.69.46.58 17:20, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Could it be because they look like eggplants? Kind of like the eggplant emojis? -boB (talk) 15:45, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Again I wonder if he does these sorts of comics just to see how far we'll take it Cgrimes85 (talk) 16:51, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Uhhh...isn’t the bottom part just the transcript?Netherin5 (talk) 17:08, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Shouldn't this go in the Venn Diagram category? 172.68.132.95 00:10, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Done. --172.68.182.154 17:58, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Can anyone make the table's cells be more regular in size across columns? 172.68.132.95 00:54, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Done 141.101.104.35 15:28, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

I am disappointed that he only referenced the "little big planet" game but not the "little big adventure" one. 141.101.96.187 08:04, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps because Little Big Adventure has been released as "Relentless: Twinsen's Adventures" in North America (and some other regions)? Even if Randall knows the game, he might know it by the alternate title. - kosgd 188.114.103.206 11:03, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Large Frog is an artwork, apparently. --162.158.155.200 22:56, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Why Are we so sure that planet being in both the little and big categories is a reference to the game? V (talk) 01:23, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

It's a good point; I can find plausible Wikipedia entries for Little planet and Big Planet but not for any of the others. Hawthorn (talk) 14:22, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

It’s more likely a very popular video game that seems a lot like Randall’s taste than a photography thing. It should at least be included. If anyone wants to put in the link for both I’m okay with that. Netherin5 (talk) 14:27, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Big Blue is also a thing in F-Zero. 162.158.126.126 15:15, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

You could fill the empty great/large/small field with: man. And the empty great/large/little with lady 162.158.91.59 12:06, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

I had a great time looking over the diagram, but through this I discovered that it's not correct ;) --Lordyoyo (talk) 14:25, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Enchilada

Is there a reason why "enchilada" appears in two rows in the table? One is capitalized, the other is not; both have similar "big" descriptions. These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For (talk) 05:26, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I added the second one in the correct alphabetical location, but didn't see the first one. I've removed the first one and transferred the Wiktionary link to the second version. KieferSkunk (talk) 01:33, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

I think that Randall placed "Wonder" in the wrong location. The term "Great Wonder" is used by the Civilization franchise. there ia s 1996 book titled "The Great Wonder" and two songs with the same title, one by Dagoba and one by Ryan Taubert. I've never played Civilization, nor read the book and don't think that I've hear either of the two songs.108.162.210.154 22:28, 30 October 2019 (UTC)