169: Words that End in GRY

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Words that End in GRY
The fifth panel also applies to postmodernists.
Title text: The fifth panel also applies to postmodernists.

[edit] Explanation

This is a reference to a mistelling of a (fairly stupid) joke (see the first of the meta versions under the wiki link).

The original, correct telling of the joke is:

Think of words ending in "-gry". "Angry" and "Hungry" are two of them. There are only three words in the English language. What is the third word? Hint: The word is something that everyone uses everyday. If you have listened carefully, I have already told you what it is.

Phrased this way, the answer is "language" because "There are only three words in (the phrase) 'the English language' ."

However, this joke is often mistold by misphrasing the original riddle as it is in the comic. By instead saying, "There are three words in the English language that end in '-gry,'" the teller of the joke has actually removed ANY chance of determining the correct answer. Many people who were stumped by the original joke and would ask their friends for help, but when they did so, they would tell the joke incorrectly as they were unaware of what the answer was.

As such, when Cueball attempts to say the answer is "language" and act smugly about it, Black Hat is unimpressed and cuts off Cueball's hand.

The title text refers to postmodernism, a philosophy and corresponding art movement. Postmodern music is often minimalist, as exemplified by the weird sounds of Philip Glass and Steve Reich, and postmodern visual art saw trends such as lowbrow and installation art gain attention. Apart from a rejection of modernism, however, it is difficult to outline postmodernism to justify the strange works of art. Deconstruction is another important concept, but it is difficult to describe the process. In short, postmodernists make art that no one understands and may act smugly about it; but they do not adequately explain what their art means or it doesn't really mean anything i.e. there is nothing to understand. Thus, Black Hat's statement: that such practice is not "cleverness", applies to them as well.

[edit] Transcript

[Black Hat and Cueball are standing next to each other.]
Cueball: There are three words in the English language that end in "gry". "Angry" and "Hungry" are two. What's the third?
Black Hat: I don't think there is one, unless you count really obscure words.
Cueball: Ha! It's "language"! I said there are three words in "the English--" Hey!
GRAB
[Black Hat grabs Cueball's hand, with a knife in hand.]
Cueball: What th--AAAAAAAAAA
[Black Hat slices off Cueball's hand with the knife.]
[Cueball is bleeding profusely.]
Black Hat: Ok, listen carefully.
Cueball: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Black Hat: Communicating badly then acting smug when you're misunderstood is not cleverness.
Cueball: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Black Hat: I hope we've learned something today.
Cueball: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Discussion

Ok, everything on this page, I already got. The bit I came here for, is the exact nature of the ambiguity. What is 'the phrase'?
"The English language that end in gry", he's wrong because there are more than three words.
"The English language", he's wrong because none of them end in gry.
"There are three words in the English language ...", wrong again because language isn't the third word.
So...? -- Zergling_man 58.96.88.83 15:24, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

The second paragraph in the explanation is what you are looking for. But as a brief overview: The reason it's easy to miss is that the words are written as a dialog would happen. If it had been properly punctuated it would have read "There are three words in 'the English language' that end with gry: 'Angry' and 'Hungry' are two. What's the third?" Cueball is saying there are three words in the phrase 'the English language' but to distract his intended victim he continues the sentence so the phrase is hidden among other words that, when taken as a whole, have a seeming continuity. This is why Black Hat cuts off Cueball's hand. Because the "joke" is not funny and being intentionally ambiguous and then being smug when the ambiguity has its intended effect is not humor. lcarsos_a (talk) 16:01, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
But this doesn't actually answer my question. Take it without the distraction. "There are three words in the English language that end in gry. What's the third?" Even then, it still doesn't make any sense. If you take it as "there are three words in the English language. What's the third?", then you're left with "that end in gry: Angry and hungry are two", and that doesn't make any sense at all. I'm not seeing how there's any way both meanings can be valid, whatever you do to this, it seems at least one is completely nonsensical. -- Zergling_man 58.96.88.83 13:00, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
The trouble is that Randall told the joke incorrectly... it should be (with proper punctuation) "There are three words in 'The English Language'. Ending in 'gry' there are 'angry' and 'hungry' What is the third word?" 190.214.5.29 04:59, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
I think a better way to say it is:
There are at least 3 words in "the English language that end with 'gry'. 'Angry' and 'hungry' are two". What is the third word? 81.23.24.39 08:33, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
For anyone who is curious, the answer is "gryphon." Greyson (talk) 20:47, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
They have to end with "GRY", an answer can be "unangry", but "gryphon" does not end with GRY (source:http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=words+that+end+in+GRY) 79.40.128.128 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
No; the original question asked for 3 words that had 'gry' in the end. 'Angry' and 'hungry' have 'gry' in the back end. 'Gryphon' has 'gry' in the front end.
Also, sudo sign all your comments by adding 4 tildes in the back end of your comment. Greyson (talk) 19:37, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
actually, as you van read in the explanation, the entire question is wrong, the joke should not have the requirement of English words ending with gry, but have the question simply be there are only three words in the English language, what is the third, prefaced by a misguiding comment about words that end with gry, like angry and hungry. The point of the joke is that this preface is not part of the question, and as such it creates a hilarious intentional misunderstanding. 145.44.88.75 10:01, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I really doubt this is Cueball, as he is seen later with both arms, and he is nowhere near as much of an asshole (or an idiot) to tell this joke incorrectly. 75.185.176.214 18:45, 8 August 2013 (UTC) tildes for the win

There are many Cueballs, just read the page on him. However, this doesn't exactly fit the normal Cueball's character. Gman314 (talk) 16:40, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

The title text is missing. Am I right that Randall states that postmodernists are not clever?--Dgbrt (talk) 19:31, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

No, I would say that Randall is making a joke about postmodern art. Stereotypically, postmodern art is very subtle and symbolic and doesn't look like much, but there is still a message hiding underneath. Randall is saying that they're not conveying their point well, but are still acting smug when people don't understand their poorly communicated point. Gman314 (talk) 16:40, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
No, but almost. Randall does feel that post-modernists are prone to this behavior, and this behavior is not clever. 108.162.219.58 01:44, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia has an entire page devoted to the -GRY joke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/-gry) 66.46.112.60 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
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