Talk:1160: Drop Those Pounds

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"Dropping Thirty Pounds Fast"? Is that a reference to the projectile weight being approx 30lb and "dropping" it on someone's walls? DD (talk) 10:03, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

I was thinking more along the lines of thirty pounds of blood and dismembered flesh. Davidy22[talk] 10:46, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

A trebuchet works by dropping a large weight connected to the swing arm, thereby propelling the projectile in a parabola (hopefully) towards the target. Thus, by dropping 30 lbs fast, you may literally hit your target. ‎ (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Anyhow the explanation is a little off. The "subtlety" referred to is not that people tend to ignore weight loss flyers. It is that the flyer looks like a flyer for a weight loss programme, while it is actually trying to recruit people for something entirely different. Most people would not get this and sign up thinking that they would lose body weight, while they would be signing up for the trebuchet club. The only hint is the drawing, really. I agree with the above comment that the "dropping 30lbs" probably refers to the projectile. 10:52, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Actually - I didn't mean that the 30lbs was the projectile but rather the counterweight propelling the projectile. 12:53, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

My vote is that 30lbs stands for the projectile. 15:55, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

30lbs for the projectile is most consistent with the alt-text, which implies that they will be hurling projectiles at the town. A 30lbs counterweight would only be able to fling a projectile an order of magnitude smaller. Also, for medieval trebuchets the "average mass of the projectiles was probably around 50–100 kg" (Wikipedia article) --Forlackofabettername (talk) 16:23, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

A trebuchet club would likely be building smaller models than the original medieval ones, so my vote is the 30lbs is referring to the counterweight, not the projectile. In a trebuchet, the counterweight drops fast, whereas the projectile doesn't initially drop at all, but it rather launches upwards and sideways; it'll be some time before it starts dropping, and even then not very quickly as the vertical speed takes some time to switch from up to zero, and then finally down, eventually building up speed to something that might be considered "FAST". But the "FAST" is mostly in the horizontal direction rather than seen as a "drop". In the meantime, that counterweight had already dropped more directly a long time ago. --boB
Even the projectiles will take more to drop, it still quite "FAST" compare any weight loss program, so I think it can still refer to the projectile. Arifsaha (talk) 18:17, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
I can just imagine someone from the club saying "Let's drop 30 lbs on the target". Besides, I'd consider the usage of the word "drop" to be more metaphorical because in the operation of a trebuchet, no individual actually drops a counterweight; they simply pull a pin or cut a rope. 20:54, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

A what-if wonder: considering a trebuchet is a weapon, will it be legal to own and place a trebuchet in your own backyard? Arifsaha (talk) 18:20, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

The art of backyard ballistics is a firmly established niche hobby -- presumably for people with really big backyards. --Prooffreader (talk) 20:22, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
I needed a new hobby since I broke the last one... this is a contender! Thanks! :D DD (talk) 16:42, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
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