Editing Talk:1237: QR Code

It might be a pun on '''Quick Response''' Code --[[Special:Contributions/109.91.114.82|109.91.114.82]] 10:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
: It's not a pun, it's a widely used abbreviation [[User:Hippyjim|Hippyjim]] ([[User talk:Hippyjim|talk]]) 11:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
:: I meant that needing to scan it in 12 seconds might be a pun on "Quick Response". --[[Special:Contributions/93.232.203.46|93.232.203.46]] 14:11, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
The only real way would be to screenshot, print, and scan... possible in about 30 seconds. Anyone want to run a time trial?--[[Special:Contributions/69.140.11.243|69.140.11.243]] 11:05, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
: No it's possible. With the right Emacs command and a Delorean [[User:Hippyjim|Hippyjim]] ([[User talk:Hippyjim|talk]]) 11:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

:What about simply using other phone or camera to make a photo and display it on its display for the camera of this phone? BTW, why are the phones so stupid they can't display two applications at once? -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 11:30, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

You can take a screenshot of your screen (at least in Android) and then read the image with your qr-reading-program. Then it'll display the decoded QR-code, and you'll type it in the app. [[Special:Contributions/189.125.162.182|189.125.162.182]] 14:00, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
:The title text says that additionally the checksum of the camera is checked. So no trick with screenshots would be possible. However I don't see a problem with second camera which displays the photo (as suggested above). --[[User:Chtz|Chtz]] ([[User talk:Chtz|talk]]) 14:05, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

I think that most phones and computers are kind of shoddily programmed, like the developers never take enough time to think of conveniences or solve problems. For example, I should be able to scan QRCs that are on my own screen. [[Special:Contributions/24.98.10.180|24.98.10.180]] 17:29, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
:That's a great idea! Shouldn't a browser be able to interpret them and just make it clickable, like a link? Seems straightforward. --[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 12:32, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
::It's not that easy, an image is just an image. We would need a tag like <barcode-image>, maybe available at HTML 6.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 13:36, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
::Putting a QR Code on a webpage wouldn't make sense in the first place, unless it is intended to be read by smart phones. But I don't think it would be very hard to implement. Just pass every image on a webpage to a QR decoder (which of course also detects if something is a valid QR code). --[[User:Chtz|Chtz]] ([[User talk:Chtz|talk]]) 14:16, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

What about using mirrors? That'd be doable. [[Special:Contributions/88.200.105.99|88.200.105.99]] 12:53, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

I've actually needed to do this once. I was browsing the web on my phone and it only displayed a QR code to download an app I needed. I wondered what the least number of mirrors required would be to achieve this. Assuming it doesn't read inverse images, it would be necessary to flip it on both axes. [[User:Keavon|Keavon]] ([[User talk:Keavon|talk]]) 05:36, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

== Link at Transcript ==

I think the link should be shown at "Explanation". I can't see it at the original comic, so "Transcript" is the wrong section.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 17:11, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
:OK, understood. I just did not try to read that QR code. But the link is still not correct at "Transcript", you have to do some actions to figure out and so it still belongs to "Explanation".--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 18:13, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

== Real-life use for something like this ==

Before I saw the title text, I thought the scenario involved scanning one device's display on another device to set up a key exchange between applications on the two devices, sort of like a [http://bu.mp/ Bump]. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 00:35, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
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 You can take a screenshot of your screen (at least in Android) and then read the image with your qr-reading-program. Then it'll display the decoded QR-code, and you'll type it in the app. [[Special:Contributions/189.125.162.182|189.125.162.182]] 14:00, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
 :The title text says that additionally the checksum of the camera is checked. So no trick with screenshots would be possible. However I don't see a problem with second camera which displays the photo (as suggested above). --[[User:Chtz|Chtz]] ([[User talk:Chtz|talk]]) 14:05, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
-::Can somebody explain how the checksum works, i.e. what the checksum against, why screenshot won't works? [[User:Arifsaha|Arifsaha]] ([[User talk:Arifsaha|talk]]) 16:08, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 I think that most phones and computers are kind of shoddily programmed, like the developers never take enough time to think of conveniences or solve problems. For example, I should be able to scan QRCs that are on my own screen. [[Special:Contributions/24.98.10.180|24.98.10.180]] 17:29, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
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 ::It's not that easy, an image is just an image. We would need a tag like <barcode-image>, maybe available at HTML 6.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 13:36, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 ::Putting a QR Code on a webpage wouldn't make sense in the first place, unless it is intended to be read by smart phones. But I don't think it would be very hard to implement. Just pass every image on a webpage to a QR decoder (which of course also detects if something is a valid QR code). --[[User:Chtz|Chtz]] ([[User talk:Chtz|talk]]) 14:16, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
-:I see a potential security flaw if a program can arbitrarily screenshot the system it's running on (in this case to find the QR code, which would be indeed an initially bad design flaw in the installation process).  Or course PC programs ''can'' screen-grab the screen that they're running on, I know because I've done this myself (for legitimate reasons) so maybe my objections on the grounds of security are moot. [[Special:Contributions/178.98.50.23|178.98.50.23]] 05:32, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
-::I can't see a severe problem with that (nothing more dangerous than using arbitrary programs on a smart phone in the first place). Especially, I can't see any problem at all, with a browser scanning the content, which itself is rendering. --[[User:Chtz|Chtz]] ([[User talk:Chtz|talk]]) 09:38, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 What about using mirrors? That'd be doable. [[Special:Contributions/88.200.105.99|88.200.105.99]] 12:53, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 I've actually needed to do this once. I was browsing the web on my phone and it only displayed a QR code to download an app I needed. I wondered what the least number of mirrors required would be to achieve this. Assuming it doesn't read inverse images, it would be necessary to flip it on both axes. [[User:Keavon|Keavon]] ([[User talk:Keavon|talk]]) 05:36, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
-: QR codes are invariant upon rotation, but not upon reflection. So yes, you'd need at least two mirrors (or any even number of them). [[Special:Contributions/88.24.184.87|88.24.184.87]] 17:09, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
-:Same idea! And here I was thinking that I was immune to nerd sniping. ProTip: nobody who would ever want to look at this website is immune to nerd sniping. I think that four would be the minimum- one for the camera, one to redirect, then two more. [[User:RedHatGuy68|RedHatGuy68]] ([[User talk:RedHatGuy68|talk]]) 06:27, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
-::And you'd need to make a photo without changing the content of your screen. I think the solution with making a photo with a second device is still the easiest (assuming, you have one at hand) --[[User:Chtz|Chtz]] ([[User talk:Chtz|talk]]) 09:38, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
-It's not hard. All you need is to move your phone faster than light for a short distance, and tadaa, you have scanned it. [[Special:Contributions/84.197.94.196|84.197.94.196]] 19:06, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
+== Link at Transcript ==
-;Link at Transcript
 I think the link should be shown at "Explanation". I can't see it at the original comic, so "Transcript" is the wrong section.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 17:11, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
 :OK, understood. I just did not try to read that QR code. But the link is still not correct at "Transcript", you have to do some actions to figure out and so it still belongs to "Explanation".--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 18:13, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
-;Real-life use for something like this
+== Real-life use for something like this ==
 Before I saw the title text, I thought the scenario involved scanning one device's display on another device to set up a key exchange between applications on the two devices, sort of like a [http://bu.mp/ Bump]. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 00:35, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
-Isn't there this software on the computer for seeing an iPhone's display on the computer? If you have it, just scan it. If its an android it won't work. [[Special:Contributions/188.29.164.92|188.29.164.92]] 13:03, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
-; SOLUTION!!!
-Mirrors in a certain formation! {{unsigned ip|108.162.218.148}}
-Quick Google-Lens access on the screen kinda ruined the joke. But it was funny for about 8 years, that's not bad for a technology joke, and now it's also wierdly nostalgic.