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Often water in spring (up hill) has better quality than in stream or river (down in the valley) --[[User:JakubNarebski|JakubNarebski]] ([[User talk:JakubNarebski|talk]]) 14:23, 30 March 2016 (UTC) | Often water in spring (up hill) has better quality than in stream or river (down in the valley) --[[User:JakubNarebski|JakubNarebski]] ([[User talk:JakubNarebski|talk]]) 14:23, 30 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
:The ground water table tends to be really close to ground on legs of a hill, so it's an ideal place to dig a well, in some places just a mand-made pond about a feet deep is all that is needed, in which case it's called a spring. {{unsigned ip|141.101.80.76}} | :The ground water table tends to be really close to ground on legs of a hill, so it's an ideal place to dig a well, in some places just a mand-made pond about a feet deep is all that is needed, in which case it's called a spring. {{unsigned ip|141.101.80.76}} | ||
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:Because she's a child. Children often use incorrect grammar of that kind. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.82|141.101.98.82]] 20:02, 30 March 2016 (UTC) | :Because she's a child. Children often use incorrect grammar of that kind. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.82|141.101.98.82]] 20:02, 30 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
::I think many kids will say it like that in spite them being told by their parents (repeatedly) to not name them selves first. But by letting Jill speak like this, he just let them be ordinary children. How many small kids do you actually hear say ''Jack and I will go up the hill'', instead of ''Me and Jack will go up the hill''? I think it would be more strange had he done it the other way, so yet I think it was on purpose, but only for the purpose or realism, not to hide any meaning... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:12, 30 March 2016 (UTC) (When first posting this it resulted in a posting conflict with the above comment, so won't change even though saying basically the same as it was a reply to the one above before the other one was posted.) | ::I think many kids will say it like that in spite them being told by their parents (repeatedly) to not name them selves first. But by letting Jill speak like this, he just let them be ordinary children. How many small kids do you actually hear say ''Jack and I will go up the hill'', instead of ''Me and Jack will go up the hill''? I think it would be more strange had he done it the other way, so yet I think it was on purpose, but only for the purpose or realism, not to hide any meaning... --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:12, 30 March 2016 (UTC) (When first posting this it resulted in a posting conflict with the above comment, so won't change even though saying basically the same as it was a reply to the one above before the other one was posted.) | ||
− | :This is actually an extremely common mistake, by native English speakers of all ages, such that it is frequently used in popular media (movies, TV, etc), often corrected by someone. And despite this correction frequently showing up, people still make this mistake, to the point where many people consider it "correct enough". I've seen this "me and him" grammatical mistake portrayed so often that I've even picked up a rule of thumb offered by some of these portrayals: Take the other person out, does it still make sense? "Me am going up the hill". This format is so common that it is less an error and more casual speaking, on par with words like "ain't", "gonna" and "gotta". In fact, saying the correct "Jack and I" can even sound odd, it's so rare. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/173.245.52.64|173.245.52.64]] 02:32, 1 April 2016 | + | :This is actually an extremely common mistake, by native English speakers of all ages, such that it is frequently used in popular media (movies, TV, etc), often corrected by someone. And despite this correction frequently showing up, people still make this mistake, to the point where many people consider it "correct enough". I've seen this "me and him" grammatical mistake portrayed so often that I've even picked up a rule of thumb offered by some of these portrayals: Take the other person out, does it still make sense? "Me am going up the hill". This format is so common that it is less an error and more casual speaking, on par with words like "ain't", "gonna" and "gotta". In fact, saying the correct "Jack and I" can even sound odd, it's so rare. - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/173.245.52.64|173.245.52.64]] 02:32, 1 April 2016 (UTC) |
The poem doesn't necessarily indicate that the water or well was located atop a hill, merely that they had to scale a hill to reach it. It could simply mean that the water source is beyond the hill in question. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.242.129|108.162.242.129]] 17:49, 30 March 2016 (UTC) | The poem doesn't necessarily indicate that the water or well was located atop a hill, merely that they had to scale a hill to reach it. It could simply mean that the water source is beyond the hill in question. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.242.129|108.162.242.129]] 17:49, 30 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
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There are Dew Ponds which are at the top of hills, more info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dew_pond {{unsigned ip|141.101.98.59}} | There are Dew Ponds which are at the top of hills, more info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dew_pond {{unsigned ip|141.101.98.59}} | ||
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[[Special:Contributions/162.158.72.11|162.158.72.11]] 21:18, 1 April 2016 (UTC) | [[Special:Contributions/162.158.72.11|162.158.72.11]] 21:18, 1 April 2016 (UTC) | ||
:[[506: Theft of the Magi|Aww!]] I was so much looking forward to it, and now it's 10 minutes to midnight in Europe, so I won't even experience it during April 1st. Guess it will prove to be a very interesting comic along the lines of the last two years April 1st comics and his [[1608|game]] when [[Thing Explainer]] came out. I hope those in the US gets that pleasure - also for Randall's sake. It would be a pity that an [[:Category:April fools' comics|April fools' comics]] came out on April 2nd... Of course this feels like I have been made an April fool so I'll take that as an experience, maybe like the first [[404: Not Found|Fool's comic]] from 2008. Havbe fun those of you who still have a chance to try it out today. ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:54, 1 April 2016 (UTC) | :[[506: Theft of the Magi|Aww!]] I was so much looking forward to it, and now it's 10 minutes to midnight in Europe, so I won't even experience it during April 1st. Guess it will prove to be a very interesting comic along the lines of the last two years April 1st comics and his [[1608|game]] when [[Thing Explainer]] came out. I hope those in the US gets that pleasure - also for Randall's sake. It would be a pity that an [[:Category:April fools' comics|April fools' comics]] came out on April 2nd... Of course this feels like I have been made an April fool so I'll take that as an experience, maybe like the first [[404: Not Found|Fool's comic]] from 2008. Havbe fun those of you who still have a chance to try it out today. ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:54, 1 April 2016 (UTC) | ||
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This is off topic, but I noticed the banner from Jeff about 100 million views to the site! I followed the original explainxkcd site for about a year before the Wiki was created. If it's been going for 6 years then 100 million views would be an average of about 46,000 views per day and about 107,000 views per comic! Does anyone know when this Wiki was created?! I also know this average is misleading. Does anybody know what the current number of views per day is? Averaged over the last year for example?[[User:ExternalMonologue|ExternalMonologue]] ([[User talk:ExternalMonologue|talk]]) 00:53, 2 April 2016 (UTC) | This is off topic, but I noticed the banner from Jeff about 100 million views to the site! I followed the original explainxkcd site for about a year before the Wiki was created. If it's been going for 6 years then 100 million views would be an average of about 46,000 views per day and about 107,000 views per comic! Does anyone know when this Wiki was created?! I also know this average is misleading. Does anybody know what the current number of views per day is? Averaged over the last year for example?[[User:ExternalMonologue|ExternalMonologue]] ([[User talk:ExternalMonologue|talk]]) 00:53, 2 April 2016 (UTC) | ||
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