Editing Talk:2405: Flash Gatsby

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I think this link should be referenced (and something added about how the copyright for this particular work is specifically extended), but not sure how to : https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/595567/why-the-great-gatsby-isnt-public-domain#:~:text=Copyright%20laws%20in%20America%20are,domain%20until%20January%201%2C%202021.&text=In%201976%2C%20Congress%20passed%20the,revised%20copyright%20laws%20from%201909.  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.121|162.158.62.121]] 02:30, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

I have one day to figure out how to do this in real life. Anybody have some tips?
[[User:HostnameNotCaroline|HostnameNotCaroline]] ([[User talk:HostnameNotCaroline|talk]]) 12:49, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

I do have tips for a plan, though I don't have a full-fledged plan. Presenting the book, sourcing the book, and fixing problems after publishing are all going to be separate steps. Keep in mind that it is ''only'' the text of the book that is copyright free, don't go taking something from the movie. I also don't know if later versions and revisions are covered or not- or if there were any. (What about forewords? They might be covered by copyright still.) I also recommend uploading it to a site that supports updating-in-place so that you can publish the new version without destroying all links to it. 

Here's how I imagine it. You load the book and are faced with an introduction on what it is. Then the reader is either ploped into the start of the book with a table of contents accessible somewhere or into the table of contents directly. There needs to be some way of moving to a particular page or chapter without crowdsourced guesswork or a thousand clicks/page-swipes. You're going to want to format chapter starts (and titles if applicable). Give the chapters clear spacing and centered headers as a book would. Don't forget about how the text will be presented. It needs to be legible, people won't want to use it if it's not. If you can't vary the size, font, and color I recommend a 12pt-20pt serif font that's black on white. Honestly though, I think that the quality of the presentation itself will be what people judge your work by. That's kind of what separates publishers when multiple people publish the same work.

I hope at least some of that was applicable. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.132.155|172.68.132.155]] 13:34, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Won't it stay up for longer if you publish it in correct timezone, making it available for those still in 2020? How does copyright law interact with timezones? How does flash's killswitch? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.203.25|162.158.203.25]] 14:16, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
:I'm still able to use Flash in Google Chrome, and it's after noon in my timezone (EST). Maybe it will actually stop with the next update? [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 17:43, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

The copyright law in question states that a work becomes public domain at the '''end''' of the year, a certain number of years after the author (or last author in the case of a collaboration) died.  In Canada, that time frame is 50 years.  In the U.S., I believe it is 75 years, but copyright renewals were a thing in the States for a time.  Because F. Scott Fitzgerald died in 1940 (80 years ago), his work ''finally'' goes into public domain at the end of this year after the 75 year term and the renewal expire.
[[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 15:53, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
: That is not true.  Well, it's correct in general, but irrelevant in regards to ''The Great Gadsby''.  In the US, Life+70 applies to all worked first published '''after''' the US joined the Berne Convention on copyrights (1980, I believe). For works published '''before''' then, it gets complicated.  Copyright was for 28 years but could be renewed for another 28 years, for a total of 56.  After that, it became Public Domain (PD).  When we join the Berne Conv, it was decided that everything already PD would remain so (those being works published before 1922, plus those published before 1950 where someone forgot to renew the copyright -- The movie ''It's a Wonderful Life'' actually fell into this category), and those works still under copyright would have it extended to 75 years. So, in 1998, everything published in 1922 became PD. But then people realized, soon it wouldn't just be old books becoming PD, but now silent films (including early Mickey Mouse shorts), and soon classic talkies would soon be PD, so something had to be done.  Enter the ''Sonny Bono Copyright Extension Act'', (Yes, he was a congressman for a while) which added another 20 years to copyright protection to those pre-Berne works.  So then, works published in 1923 finally became PD 1-Jan-2019, with works from 1924 and 1925 following in 2020 & 2021. (And that's the simplified version; it's really even more complicated than that!) [[User:JamesCurran|JamesCurran]] ([[User talk:JamesCurran|talk]]) 20:53, 25 May 2021 (UTC) 

Great Gatsby seems to be the work everyone is waiting to plagiarize legally. It's been mentioned in several reports on NPR today. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 17:43, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

"It was obviously delayed one day to come out on new year." Or another comic will come out today (Friday), and this was an extra comic and not a delayed one. I'm removing this sentence until we know. [[User:Danish|Danish]] ([[User talk:Danish|talk]]) 17:58, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
: per https://xkcd.com/archive/, this is not true. The publish date is 2020-12-30.