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I tried to edit the table to have the weirdness and badness from -10 to 10, but the table broke. Can someone fix it please? [[User:Cal3000000|Cal3000000]] ([[User talk:Cal3000000|talk]]) 12:12, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 
I tried to edit the table to have the weirdness and badness from -10 to 10, but the table broke. Can someone fix it please? [[User:Cal3000000|Cal3000000]] ([[User talk:Cal3000000|talk]]) 12:12, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 
:Fixed it [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2466:_In_Your_Classroom&diff=334172&oldid=334170 here] (before I read your call for help). I mention in the summary the ''reason'' it broke, and was just about to let you know anyway (you don't have a Talk page yet, so came here to give the link and then find the above plea).
 
:Fixed it [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2466:_In_Your_Classroom&diff=334172&oldid=334170 here] (before I read your call for help). I mention in the summary the ''reason'' it broke, and was just about to let you know anyway (you don't have a Talk page yet, so came here to give the link and then find the above plea).
:(I had to squash the reason down, to fit, however. Table-data lines get the "|-" symbol at the start of a line (text after that doesn't appear as regular cell data). Table cell-data starts as "|" on a line-start (or "||" where adding more cells on a single line of markup) and when the cell ("|") starts with a "-" (e.g. "-5") then it clearly looks like a row-break ("|-[...]") unless you do something about it. In this case, I put a space between the cell-pipe and the value-negative (and also could have added one, or two, before the unsigned values ...just for markup neatness). Other solutions might have been to use a different dash (”–” instead of "-", visually not too different, but might have annoyed other people doing text-searches [edit: and caused more fuss in supporting table-sorting functionality, of course!<!-- for the interested: if the column is "sortable", then data-sort-value="" would probably be needed, causing so much unnecessary additional fuss... -->]), moved the new-line cells into being "||" followups to the respective prior line or used something like a <code><nowiki><nowiki/></nowiki></code> "breaking-nonspace" interjection (i.e. technically the opposite of an <code>&amp;nbsp;</code>, though that would have worked also for several reasons). I'm sure there are other ways of doing it, as well, but I only tried the first, with the others in mind in case I'd got the right sort of diagnosis in mind but hadn't immediately identified a working cure.)
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:(I had to squash the reason down, to fit, however. Table-data lines get the "|-" symbol at the start of a line (text after that doesn't appear as regular cell data). Table cell-data starts as "|" on a line-start (or "||" where adding more cells on a single line of markup) and when the cell ("|") starts with a "-" (e.g. "-5") then it clearly looks like a row-break ("|-[...]") unless you do something about it. In this case, I put a space between the cell-pipe and the value-negative (and also could have added one, or two, before the unsigned values ...just for markup neatness). Other solutions might have been to use a different dash (”–” instead of "-", visually not too different, but might have annoyed other people doing text-sesrches), moved the new-line cells into being "||" followups to the respective prior line or used something like a <code><nowiki><nowiki/></nowiki></code> "breaking-nonspace" interjection (i.e. technically the opposite of an <code>&amp;nbsp;</code>, though that would have worked also for several reasons). I'm sure there are other ways of doing it, as well, but I only tried the first, with the others in mind in case I'd got the right sort of diagnosis in mind but hadn't immediately identified a working cure.)
 
:The only suggestion I have, for future, is to use the Preview button more. As I ought to, sometimes. But it lets you play around to see if you can identify (and solve!) any problems, especially with notoriously miseditable table markup. You can also entirely back out of changes easier, while you try to learn what went wrong or seek help from others. It's always good to learn, of course! And I also learnt from this, and it's probably only circumstantial that I had never made the same inadvertent error in the past... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.80|172.69.194.80]] 13:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 
:The only suggestion I have, for future, is to use the Preview button more. As I ought to, sometimes. But it lets you play around to see if you can identify (and solve!) any problems, especially with notoriously miseditable table markup. You can also entirely back out of changes easier, while you try to learn what went wrong or seek help from others. It's always good to learn, of course! And I also learnt from this, and it's probably only circumstantial that I had never made the same inadvertent error in the past... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.80|172.69.194.80]] 13:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
  

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