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== Title text ==
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Isn't the sum in the title text wrong? It should be ''99 Luftballoons'' (or the English cover ''99 Red Balloons'') + ''101 Dalmatians'' + ''I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)'' = 700 balloons, dalmatians and miles (not 1,200).--[[Special:Contributions/141.101.69.103|141.101.69.103]]
 
Isn't the sum in the title text wrong? It should be ''99 Luftballoons'' (or the English cover ''99 Red Balloons'') + ''101 Dalmatians'' + ''I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)'' = 700 balloons, dalmatians and miles (not 1,200).--[[Special:Contributions/141.101.69.103|141.101.69.103]]
::Really?! 1000 miles is "wrong" because the ''only'' song ever written about miles is that one that mentions 500 of them in the title?! Wow. [[User:Yorkshire Pudding|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding|talk]]) 10:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 
 
:Maybe it's about Vanessa Carlton's "A Thousand Miles"? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.65.245|172.69.65.245]] 22:13, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Maybe it's about Vanessa Carlton's "A Thousand Miles"? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.65.245|172.69.65.245]] 22:13, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Note that ''I'm Gonna Be'' is actually about walking 1000 miles, not 500 miles. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.39.41|172.70.39.41]] 08:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Note that ''I'm Gonna Be'' is actually about walking 1000 miles, not 500 miles. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.39.41|172.70.39.41]] 08:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
::Right! "I-hai would walk five hundred miles, and I-hai would walk five hundred more..." [[User:Transgalactic|Transgalactic]] ([[User talk:Transgalactic|talk]]) 15:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
::Right! "I-hai would walk five hundred miles, and I-hai would walk five hundred more..." [[User:Transgalactic|Transgalactic]] ([[User talk:Transgalactic|talk]]) 15:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
:::So what though, really? The title only contains 500, regardless of what the lyrics say, and it's about forming composites of songs' names. Lionel Richie would only count as contributing "''Three''" Times a Lady, despite singing about once and twice as well. [[User:Yorkshire Pudding|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding|talk]]) 10:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:::Like Yorkshire Pudding said... Comic is all Group NAMES, title is about song TITLES. "I would walk 500 more" simply isn't part of the title. It might be worth a passing mention, but less so and fewer times than it currently is. It's an interesting associated fact, but doesn't deserve to be treated like it's a potential candidate. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:18, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:First and only song I thought of as well, but of course this is referring to Vanessa Carlton's "1,000 Miles", I didn't think of it until I saw the description. :) He DID get the title wrong, though. It's LUFTballoons (or "Red Balloons" for the English version). [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:07, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 
  
 
"cover" implies that the combined song already exists and was performed by some other group. I would expect that this supergroup would have created the medley themselves, to fit their particular genre. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 22:23, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 
"cover" implies that the combined song already exists and was performed by some other group. I would expect that this supergroup would have created the medley themselves, to fit their particular genre. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 22:23, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
  
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"101 Dalmations" isn't a well known song AFAIK. It was written as the title song of the Disney movie, but wasn't actually used. Wikipedia says it got released on other albums. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 22:38, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
  
"101 Dalmations" isn't a well known song AFAIK. It was written as the title song of the Disney movie, but wasn't actually used. Wikipedia says it got released on other albums. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 22:38, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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== Comic ==
:I feel like he REALLY wanted it in order to round off the 99 from 99 Luftballons. :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:18, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 
::You'd have the same result if you added 101 {{w|Twenty Four Hours from Tulsa|Hours From Tulsa}}, {{w|Seventy-Six Trombones|Trombones}} and {{w|One Vision|Visions}}, instead?
 
::(Am pleased enough to include Queen, in any such medley, but originally was wondering if the sountrack from "(The) ... Sense" should combine with "... Finger, Left Hand" and "... A Sixpence", at that point.) [[Special:Contributions/172.69.43.225|172.69.43.225]] 16:49, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 
A supergroup cover of ''99 Luftballons'' would probably be ''awesome.'' --[[User:The-Daleks|The-Daleks]] ([[User talk:The-Daleks|talk]]) 20:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
  
 
I don't know all the bands, but it looks like they are: 21 Pilots, 5 Seconds of Summer, 4 Non Blondes, 2 Live Crew, 100 GEC, 3 Doors Down, 9 Inch Nails, 1 Republic, 1 Direction, 30 Seconds to Mars.
 
I don't know all the bands, but it looks like they are: 21 Pilots, 5 Seconds of Summer, 4 Non Blondes, 2 Live Crew, 100 GEC, 3 Doors Down, 9 Inch Nails, 1 Republic, 1 Direction, 30 Seconds to Mars.
  
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== Missed Opportunity ==
  
;Missed Opportunity (to n3rd about maths)
 
 
I am surprised there were no references to orthosymplectic or superunitary groups.
 
I am surprised there were no references to orthosymplectic or superunitary groups.
 
:That's what I originally thought the joke would be about. This is much more mundane. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 22:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:That's what I originally thought the joke would be about. This is much more mundane. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 22:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Well if ''G'' and ''H'' are groups and ''G'' ⊇ ''H'', then ''G'' is a supergroup of ''H'', isn't it? --[[User:Coconut Galaxy|Coconut Galaxy]] ([[User talk:Coconut Galaxy|talk]]) 13:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Well if ''G'' and ''H'' are groups and ''G'' ⊇ ''H'', then ''G'' is a supergroup of ''H'', isn't it? --[[User:Coconut Galaxy|Coconut Galaxy]] ([[User talk:Coconut Galaxy|talk]]) 13:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
::If you know the math, could you please check my edit? All I know about it is the name, and that it has something to do with supersymmetry in string theory. [[User:Transgalactic|Transgalactic]] ([[User talk:Transgalactic|talk]]) 14:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 
  
I think that the description misses the connection to math:
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== extras ==
* Group is a mathematical concept (**set** of elements with some properties and operations)
 
* Sub-group is a subset of a group that retains the properties; Super-group can be constructed similarrly;
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_(mathematics) ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subgroup ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergroup_(physics)
 
--[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.132|141.101.105.132]] 18:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:I added a sentence about supergroups in mathematical physics, feel free to add anything that's missing for a good explanation. [[User:Transgalactic|Transgalactic]] ([[User talk:Transgalactic|talk]]) 14:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 
  
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throw in:
  
;Other Bands/Artists/Movies/Songs with Numbers
 
throw in:
 
 
* {{w|23 Skidoo (band)|23 Skidoo}}
 
* {{w|23 Skidoo (band)|23 Skidoo}}
* {{w|400 Blows (British band)|400 Blows}}  
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* {{w|400 Blows (British band)|400 Blows}}
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--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.76|162.158.63.76]] 07:10, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.76|162.158.63.76]] 07:10, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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:{{w|Five Finger Death Punch}}
 
:{{w|Five Finger Death Punch}}
 
:{{w|Six Feet Under (band)|Six Feet Under}} --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 13:37, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:{{w|Six Feet Under (band)|Six Feet Under}} --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 13:37, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
::No one's mentioned {{w|Three Days Grace}} yet? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.2.101|172.68.2.101]] 05:43, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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:::Or 3 Colours Red? Or 9 Days? [[User:Yorkshire Pudding|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding|talk]]) 10:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 
 
I remember a great film, ''The Magnificently Dirty Nineteen''. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.195.155|172.69.195.155]]
 
I remember a great film, ''The Magnificently Dirty Nineteen''. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.195.155|172.69.195.155]]
 
:Don't forget the sequel ''The Fantastic Ocean's Taking of Pelham Slaughterhouse 143'' [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:07, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Don't forget the sequel ''The Fantastic Ocean's Taking of Pelham Slaughterhouse 143'' [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:07, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
::And the supercut "The Fast and the Furious 41" --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 15:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
::And the supercut "The Fast and the Furious 41" --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 15:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I like the alternate cut: 108 Dalmation Nation Army. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.48|172.69.247.48]]
 
 
I'm going to hold out for The Blink and Ben Folds 2162. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.189|162.158.159.189]] 22:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:{{w|10,000 Maniacs}} could have gotten the numbers up, and I'm guessing a lot of readers would have gotten that reference? [[User:MGoSeth|MGoSeth]] ([[User talk:MGoSeth|talk]]) 23:53, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 
Not to be confused with the album Greatest Discount Hits with classic songs like Two Bridges Road, Twelve Ways to Leave Your Lover, and 1 Legit 1 Quit. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.57|172.69.247.57]] 06:51, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 
 
; WHO THE FUCK REMOVED MY GOOGLE-INFESTED WIKILINKS
 
 
[[User:Jupitale|gay jupitah (he/they)]] ([[User talk:Jupitale|talk]]) 14:15, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.174|172.70.86.174]] 16:09, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 
 
Is it only me, or is there no actual edit in [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2905:_Supergroup&diff=prev&oldid=337351 this diff]? (Every now and then I see edits that indicate a paragraph gets replaced ''with itself'', and not even an extra space removed, or a missing one added, which at least should highlight yellow or blue in the appropriate block of text.) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.190|172.71.178.190]] 02:58, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 
 
:There's actually a spaces difference. "100/2=50" was edited into "100 / 2 = 50". --[[User:DukeBG|DukeBG]] ([[User talk:DukeBG|talk]]) 19:57, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 
  
::Well, that's strange. I (thought I) had checked every line-end to look for different rewrapping. Which is definitely there now. But I honestly believe was not at time of posting. I accept that I'm probably more likely to be wrong about that than the backend code being strangely capricious, but - seriously - I did everything but copy the two texts to a notepad window. Would have done, if I was on a desktop (which would let me line things up horizontally and even search-and-replace strings until the diff reveals), but that's not so easy to juggle on my touchscreen device. And, regardless, I would normally expect even subtle spaces (added/removed) to be highlit.
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I like the alternate cut: 108 Dalmation Nation Army. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.48|172.69.247.48]]
::But now I know. End of that query, at least. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.62|172.70.91.62]] 22:01, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 

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