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== Title text ==
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Isn't the sum in the title text wrong? It should be ''99 Luftballoons'' (or the English cover ''99 Red Balloons'') + ''101 Dalmatians'' + ''I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)'' = 700 balloons, dalmatians and miles (not 1,200).--[[Special:Contributions/141.101.69.103|141.101.69.103]]
 
Isn't the sum in the title text wrong? It should be ''99 Luftballoons'' (or the English cover ''99 Red Balloons'') + ''101 Dalmatians'' + ''I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)'' = 700 balloons, dalmatians and miles (not 1,200).--[[Special:Contributions/141.101.69.103|141.101.69.103]]
 
:Maybe it's about Vanessa Carlton's "A Thousand Miles"? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.65.245|172.69.65.245]] 22:13, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Maybe it's about Vanessa Carlton's "A Thousand Miles"? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.65.245|172.69.65.245]] 22:13, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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A supergroup cover of ''99 Luftballons'' would probably be ''awesome.'' --[[User:The-Daleks|The-Daleks]] ([[User talk:The-Daleks|talk]]) 20:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
A supergroup cover of ''99 Luftballons'' would probably be ''awesome.'' --[[User:The-Daleks|The-Daleks]] ([[User talk:The-Daleks|talk]]) 20:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
== Comic ==
 
  
 
I don't know all the bands, but it looks like they are: 21 Pilots, 5 Seconds of Summer, 4 Non Blondes, 2 Live Crew, 100 GEC, 3 Doors Down, 9 Inch Nails, 1 Republic, 1 Direction, 30 Seconds to Mars.
 
I don't know all the bands, but it looks like they are: 21 Pilots, 5 Seconds of Summer, 4 Non Blondes, 2 Live Crew, 100 GEC, 3 Doors Down, 9 Inch Nails, 1 Republic, 1 Direction, 30 Seconds to Mars.
  
== Missed Opportunity ==
 
  
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;Missed Opportunity (to n3rd about maths)
 
I am surprised there were no references to orthosymplectic or superunitary groups.
 
I am surprised there were no references to orthosymplectic or superunitary groups.
 
:That's what I originally thought the joke would be about. This is much more mundane. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 22:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:That's what I originally thought the joke would be about. This is much more mundane. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 22:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Well if ''G'' and ''H'' are groups and ''G'' ⊇ ''H'', then ''G'' is a supergroup of ''H'', isn't it? --[[User:Coconut Galaxy|Coconut Galaxy]] ([[User talk:Coconut Galaxy|talk]]) 13:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Well if ''G'' and ''H'' are groups and ''G'' ⊇ ''H'', then ''G'' is a supergroup of ''H'', isn't it? --[[User:Coconut Galaxy|Coconut Galaxy]] ([[User talk:Coconut Galaxy|talk]]) 13:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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::If you know the math, could you please check my edit? All I know about it is the name, and that it has something to do with supersymmetry in string theory. [[User:Transgalactic|Transgalactic]] ([[User talk:Transgalactic|talk]]) 14:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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I think that the description misses the connection to math:
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* Group is a mathematical concept (**set** of elements with some properties and operations)
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* Sub-group is a subset of a group that retains the properties; Super-group can be constructed similarrly;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_(mathematics) ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subgroup ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergroup_(physics)
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--[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.132|141.101.105.132]] 18:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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:I added a sentence about supergroups in mathematical physics, feel free to add anything that's missing for a good explanation. [[User:Transgalactic|Transgalactic]] ([[User talk:Transgalactic|talk]]) 14:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
  
== extras ==
 
  
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;Other Bands/Artists/Movies/Songs with Numbers
 
throw in:
 
throw in:
 
 
* {{w|23 Skidoo (band)|23 Skidoo}}
 
* {{w|23 Skidoo (band)|23 Skidoo}}
* {{w|400 Blows (British band)|400 Blows}}
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* {{w|400 Blows (British band)|400 Blows}}  
 
 
 
--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.76|162.158.63.76]] 07:10, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.76|162.158.63.76]] 07:10, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
 
:{{w|Five Finger Death Punch}}
 
:{{w|Five Finger Death Punch}}
 
:{{w|Six Feet Under (band)|Six Feet Under}} --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 13:37, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:{{w|Six Feet Under (band)|Six Feet Under}} --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 13:37, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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::No one's mentioned {{w|Three Days Grace}} yet? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.2.101|172.68.2.101]] 05:43, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
  
 
I remember a great film, ''The Magnificently Dirty Nineteen''. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.195.155|172.69.195.155]]
 
I remember a great film, ''The Magnificently Dirty Nineteen''. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.195.155|172.69.195.155]]
 
:Don't forget the sequel ''The Fantastic Ocean's Taking of Pelham Slaughterhouse 143'' [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:07, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Don't forget the sequel ''The Fantastic Ocean's Taking of Pelham Slaughterhouse 143'' [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:07, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
::And the supercut "The Fast and the Furious 41" --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 15:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
::And the supercut "The Fast and the Furious 41" --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 15:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
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:::I like the alternate cut: 108 Dalmation Nation Army. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.48|172.69.247.48]]
I like the alternate cut: 108 Dalmation Nation Army. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.48|172.69.247.48]]
 
  
 
I'm going to hold out for The Blink and Ben Folds 2162. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.189|162.158.159.189]] 22:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 
I'm going to hold out for The Blink and Ben Folds 2162. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.189|162.158.159.189]] 22:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
  
== Group (math) connections ==
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Not to be confused with the album Greatest Discount Hits with classic songs like Two Bridges Road, Twelve Ways to Leave Your Lover, and 1 Legit 1 Quit. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.57|172.69.247.57]] 06:51, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 
 
I think tat the description misses the connection to math:
 
 
 
* Group is a mathematical concept (**set** of elements with some properties and operations)
 
* Sub-group is a subset of a group that retains the properties; Super-group can be constructed similarrly;
 
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_(mathematics) ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subgroup ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergroup_(physics)
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; WHO THE FUCK REMOVED MY GOOGLE-INFESTED WIKILINKS
  
--[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.132|141.101.105.132]] 18:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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[[User:Jupitale|gay jupitah (he/they)]] ([[User talk:Jupitale|talk]]) 14:15, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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:Better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.174|172.70.86.174]] 16:09, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Revision as of 16:09, 13 March 2024


Title text

Isn't the sum in the title text wrong? It should be 99 Luftballoons (or the English cover 99 Red Balloons) + 101 Dalmatians + I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles) = 700 balloons, dalmatians and miles (not 1,200).--141.101.69.103

Maybe it's about Vanessa Carlton's "A Thousand Miles"? 172.69.65.245 22:13, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Note that I'm Gonna Be is actually about walking 1000 miles, not 500 miles. 172.70.39.41 08:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Right! "I-hai would walk five hundred miles, and I-hai would walk five hundred more..." Transgalactic (talk) 15:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

"cover" implies that the combined song already exists and was performed by some other group. I would expect that this supergroup would have created the medley themselves, to fit their particular genre. Barmar (talk) 22:23, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

"101 Dalmations" isn't a well known song AFAIK. It was written as the title song of the Disney movie, but wasn't actually used. Wikipedia says it got released on other albums. Barmar (talk) 22:38, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

A supergroup cover of 99 Luftballons would probably be awesome. --The-Daleks (talk) 20:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

I don't know all the bands, but it looks like they are: 21 Pilots, 5 Seconds of Summer, 4 Non Blondes, 2 Live Crew, 100 GEC, 3 Doors Down, 9 Inch Nails, 1 Republic, 1 Direction, 30 Seconds to Mars.


Missed Opportunity (to n3rd about maths)

I am surprised there were no references to orthosymplectic or superunitary groups.

That's what I originally thought the joke would be about. This is much more mundane. Barmar (talk) 22:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Well if G and H are groups and GH, then G is a supergroup of H, isn't it? --Coconut Galaxy (talk) 13:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
If you know the math, could you please check my edit? All I know about it is the name, and that it has something to do with supersymmetry in string theory. Transgalactic (talk) 14:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

I think that the description misses the connection to math:

  • Group is a mathematical concept (**set** of elements with some properties and operations)
  • Sub-group is a subset of a group that retains the properties; Super-group can be constructed similarrly;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_(mathematics) ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subgroup ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergroup_(physics) --141.101.105.132 18:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

I added a sentence about supergroups in mathematical physics, feel free to add anything that's missing for a good explanation. Transgalactic (talk) 14:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


Other Bands/Artists/Movies/Songs with Numbers

throw in:

--162.158.63.76 07:10, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Five Finger Death Punch
Six Feet Under --Lupo (talk) 13:37, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
No one's mentioned Three Days Grace yet? 172.68.2.101 05:43, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

I remember a great film, The Magnificently Dirty Nineteen. 172.69.195.155

Don't forget the sequel The Fantastic Ocean's Taking of Pelham Slaughterhouse 143 Barmar (talk) 14:07, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
And the supercut "The Fast and the Furious 41" --Lupo (talk) 15:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
I like the alternate cut: 108 Dalmation Nation Army. 172.69.247.48

I'm going to hold out for The Blink and Ben Folds 2162. 162.158.159.189 22:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Not to be confused with the album Greatest Discount Hits with classic songs like Two Bridges Road, Twelve Ways to Leave Your Lover, and 1 Legit 1 Quit. 172.69.247.57 06:51, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

WHO THE FUCK REMOVED MY GOOGLE-INFESTED WIKILINKS

gay jupitah (he/they) (talk) 14:15, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. 172.70.86.174 16:09, 13 March 2024 (UTC)