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Note that the major reason why is easier for Linux to supports 4096 CPUs than smooth flash playback is that flash is proprietary format and without cooperation from Adobe very little can be done with it. For example, most of Adobe products, flash player included (since version 11), are now compiled with SSE2 support in a way which makes them not work at all on CPUs which don't have such capability. Noone except Adobe can do anything with it, and Adobe apparently don't consider it problem. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 00:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 
Note that the major reason why is easier for Linux to supports 4096 CPUs than smooth flash playback is that flash is proprietary format and without cooperation from Adobe very little can be done with it. For example, most of Adobe products, flash player included (since version 11), are now compiled with SSE2 support in a way which makes them not work at all on CPUs which don't have such capability. Noone except Adobe can do anything with it, and Adobe apparently don't consider it problem. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 00:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Who is this we that he refers to in the title-text.  Is it him and his Intel card, him and his fiance, is he royalty, or does he simply have a tapeworm with good taste in political comedy? [[Special:Contributions/66.249.85.193|66.249.85.193]] 21:50, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 
 
http://asset.soup.io/asset/0453/8747_0991_800.png (Changelog for xorg; "Fixes XKCD #619")
 
Sudofox (I haven't made an account. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.31|108.162.216.31]] 19:13, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 
: please use archive.org links, it causes deadlinks http://web.archive.org/web/20150326223351/http://asset.soup.io/asset/0453/8747_0991_800.png --[[Special:Contributions/172.69.35.59|172.69.35.59]] 18:03, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 
 
The commit that added 4096 CPUs support was [https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/1184dc2ffe2c8fb9afb766d870850f2c3165ef25 1184dc2] by Mike Travis from SGI (which sells systems with that many CPUs); see also [https://events.linuxfoundation.org/slides/lfcs09_travis.pdf this presentation] by him.
 
However, that commit was soon reverted in [https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/d25e26b61d59370eee8b7f2634641eb0fa76e952 d25e26b] because it caused too many problems (big CPU mask → some huge stack frames), with a comment that “Some day we'll have allocation helpers that allocate large CPU masks dynamically, but in the meantime we simply cannot allow cpumasks this large.”
 
Today, [https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/1e3827bf8aebe29af2d6e49b89d85dfae4d0154f/arch/x86/Kconfig#L778 up to 8192 CPUs are supported], so presumably they do have these helpers now :) --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.230.95|108.162.230.95]] 09:03, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 
:I put some paragraph spacing in  your comment because it is difficult to follow on the edit page.
 
:The problems of computer engineering mirror the difficulties faced by producers of machinery everywhere: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_calculator
 
:It doesn't matter what level of technical genius their builders attain nor in which field they exert their energy, Linux machines will be cold-shouldered because Microsoft's is the only code that allows users to work with a cludge like Flash.
 
:This sort of thing will continue as long as vested interests allow such indecencies to exist. Blaise Pascal never had the luxury of working in tens. It took a famine, an egregious tax system (rather similar to that of the USA's) and a revolution to improve things. Perhaps we can learn something from history?
 
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:In 2009, when this comic was published, most computers being sold were 4 cores. The problem was the dissipation of heat and incidental costs of electricity used. Manufactures could see the wall presented by frequency oscillations. Having 4000 CPUs/cores/threads/whatever just meant you had a hotter frying pan.
 
 
[[User:Weatherlawyer| I used Google News BEFORE it was clickbait]] ([[User talk:Weatherlawyer|talk]]) 08:18, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 
 
So when is Linux going to follow the others AGAIN, had to wait til the rest did flash, before they discontinue flash support like MS and Mozilla, and all. This is why there never be a year of the linux desktop as they do not care about desktop users. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.166|108.162.216.166]] 13:33, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 
 
Hey look, this was fixed [https://github.com/jjneely/elrepo/blob/master/xorg-x11-drv-intel/el6/xorg-x11-drv-intel.spec#L259 here]!
 
[[Special:Contributions/172.68.174.82|172.68.174.82]] 21:55, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== Flash ==
 
RIP flash ;-; [[User:Beanie|Beanie]] ([[User talk:Beanie|talk]]) 10:43, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 

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