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|"No, the monster in Mary Shelley's book is unnamed. Frankenstein is the doctor who created him."||This is the normal claim||MS-F-?||This is the claim that is generally considered correct. The POV character of the novel is, in fact, Victor Frankenstein. The monster is never given a name, although some fans name him Adam because of a line he speaks to Victor: "'I ought to be thy Adam, but I am rather the fallen angel, whom thou drivest from joy". The only error in this claim is referring to Victor as a doctor. (In the novel, Victor has not finished his schooling, returning home before finishing his education at the University of Ingolstadt.)
 
|"No, the monster in Mary Shelley's book is unnamed. Frankenstein is the doctor who created him."||This is the normal claim||MS-F-?||This is the claim that is generally considered correct. The POV character of the novel is, in fact, Victor Frankenstein. The monster is never given a name, although some fans name him Adam because of a line he speaks to Victor: "'I ought to be thy Adam, but I am rather the fallen angel, whom thou drivest from joy". The only error in this claim is referring to Victor as a doctor. (In the novel, Victor has not finished his schooling, returning home before finishing his education at the University of Ingolstadt.)
 
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|"No, the monster in Mary Shelley's novel is named Frankenstein."||Also common, and not worth getting mad about IMO||MS-?-F||This is a common misconception, but Randall believes it's not something to get upset about, either because he has decided it's not {{wiktionary|hill to die on|a hill worth dying on}} or that, since everyone calls the monster "Frankenstein", it is ''de facto'' for all intents and purposes his name. Randall has previously touched upon this in comics [[1589: Frankenstein]] and [[2604: Frankenstein Captcha]]. This permutation places the '?' in the creator position, and so avoids talking about the doctor's name at all.
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|"No, the monster in Mary Shelley's novel is named Frankenstein."||Also common, and not worth getting mad about IMO||MS-?-F||This is a common misconception, but Randall believes it's not something to get upset about, either because he has decided it's not [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hill_to_die_on a hill worth dying on] or that, since everyone calls the monster "Frankenstein", it is ''de facto'' for all intents and purposes his name.
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Randall has previously touched upon this in comics [[1589: Frankenstein]] and [[2604: Frankenstein Captcha]]. This permutation places the '?' in the creator position, and so avoids talking about the doctor's name at all.
 
Alternatively, the statement could be taken as an argument that Frankenstein should be considered the "monster" because he created and then abandoned a sentient being.
 
Alternatively, the statement could be taken as an argument that Frankenstein should be considered the "monster" because he created and then abandoned a sentient being.
 
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|"No, Frankenstein is the name of the author. The monster Mary Shelley created is unnamed."||At a glance this could pass for one of the normal claims||F-MS-?||This statement, Randall says, is so much like the first two that he says it could pass for one of the normal claims. He could also mean that while slightly stretching the meaning of those words, Mary Shelley did "create" the monster (as it's a character in the book she wrote) and Frankenstein is the "author" (creator) of the monster. Alternately, one can consider the story a mostly first hand account of Victor's exploits, as it is initially told to the book's opening narrator (the otherwise sidelined Captain Robert Walton), with Mary having created Monster, Victor, the Captain and all others within the novel (of the Captain's tale of Victor's tale of the apparent nature of the Monster).
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|"No, Frankenstein is the name of the author. The monster Mary Shelley created is unnamed."||At a glance this could pass for one of the normal claims||F-MS-?||This sentence takes advantage of a quirk in our brains in that we often subconsciously adjust sentences to cause them to make sense. A common example given is "a bird in the the tree", which features two instances of the word "the" in sequence that studies have found most people automatically gloss over. In this context, even though the names of Frankenstein and Mary Shelley are swapped around, our brains subconsciously swap them back, thereby making the sentences sound "correct".
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Alternatively could mean that while slightly stretching the meaning of those words, Mary Shelley did "create" the monster (since she came up with the creator) and that since the book is  written by Dr. Frankenstein, he is the (in-universe) "author".
 
This could also be a reference to a tweet[https://twitter.com/MedCrisis/status/1511644464544104452] featuring a photo of a collection of classic books[https://i.redd.it/bnab4cu39dqa1.jpg] in which "Frankenstein" is printed in the position and format of the author's name for the other books of the collection, while "Mary Shelley" is printed in the title position.
 
This could also be a reference to a tweet[https://twitter.com/MedCrisis/status/1511644464544104452] featuring a photo of a collection of classic books[https://i.redd.it/bnab4cu39dqa1.jpg] in which "Frankenstein" is printed in the position and format of the author's name for the other books of the collection, while "Mary Shelley" is printed in the title position.
 
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|[Open book. Left page says "MS", right page shows the monster labeled "F". Arrow pointing to book says "by ?".]<br/><br/>"No one knows who wrote the novel about Doctor Mary Shelley creating the monster Frankenstein."||I would read this book
 
|[Open book. Left page says "MS", right page shows the monster labeled "F". Arrow pointing to book says "by ?".]<br/><br/>"No one knows who wrote the novel about Doctor Mary Shelley creating the monster Frankenstein."||I would read this book
 
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|[Open book. Left page says "F", right page shows the monster (with longer hair) labeled "MS". Arrow pointing to book says "by ?".]<br/><br/>"No, Frankenstein is the name of the doctor. The monster he created is Mary Shelley."||rowspan=2|Fully chaotic
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|[Open book. Left page says "F", right page shows the monster labeled "MS". Arrow pointing to book says "by ?".]<br/><br/>"No, Frankenstein is the name of the doctor. The monster he created is Mary Shelley."||rowspan=2|Fully chaotic
 
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|[Open book. Left page says "?", right page shows the monster (with longer hair) labeled "MS". Arrow pointing to book says "by F".]<br/><br/>"No, the doctor who creates Mary Shelley in Frankenstein's novel doesn't have a name."
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|[Open book. Left page says "?", right page shows the monster labeled "MS". Arrow pointing to book says "by F".]<br/><br/>"No, the doctor who creates Mary Shelley in Frankenstein's novel doesn't have a name."
 
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