Editing Talk:1742: Will It Work

I think original poster, while did a great job transcribing, missed the point somewhat. While it is true that package managers make installation process more robust <i>for average users</i> (they sometimes also [http://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/debian-linux/ubuntu-linux-rollback-an-apt-get-upgrade/ screw things royally]), Randall probably wanted to point that projects that reached package state are most mature, tested and debugged. Using public git repository also speaks well about the coding practices and hence product quality. On the other hand, code that requires manual tweaking in order to be installed most likely have only been seriously used by author (if at all) and very likely to contain fatal bugs.
[[Special:Contributions/172.68.11.85|172.68.11.85]] 08:06, 5 October 2016 (UTC) qm2k

Also, I believe this misses the joke about Geocities.  I don't believe he is referring to code that was downloaded from Geocities at some distant past date, but code for which you are today given a link on Geocities to get it.  The joke here is despite that fact that the chance of installing that code is zero, it's still better that code needing to be tweaked. [[User:JamesCurran|JamesCurran]] ([[User talk:JamesCurran|talk]]) 15:06, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
:The chance of successfully finding code from a Geocities link is not zero - there's a nonzero chance that the page survived on the Wayback Machine (and/or on one of the projects dedicated to archiving Geocities specifically). It is, however, still tiny. (Incidentally, what's Tripod? The explanation doesn't mention it at all.) --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.11.85|172.68.11.85]] 23:05, 6 October 2016 (UTC)


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[[Special:Contributions/162.158.239.63|162.158.239.63]] 18:58, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
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-I think original poster did a great job transcribing, but missed the point somewhat. While it is true that package managers make the installation process more robust <i>for average users</i> (they sometimes also [http://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/debian-linux/ubuntu-linux-rollback-an-apt-get-upgrade/ screw things royally]), Randall probably wanted to make the point that projects which have reached package state are the most mature, tested and debugged. Using public git repository also speaks well about coding practices and hence product quality. On the other hand, code which requires manual tweaking to be installed likely has only been seriously used by its author (if at all) and is very likely to contain fatal bugs.
+I think original poster, while did a great job transcribing, missed the point somewhat. While it is true that package managers make installation process more robust <i>for average users</i> (they sometimes also [http://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/debian-linux/ubuntu-linux-rollback-an-apt-get-upgrade/ screw things royally]), Randall probably wanted to point that projects that reached package state are most mature, tested and debugged. Using public git repository also speaks well about the coding practices and hence product quality. On the other hand, code that requires manual tweaking in order to be installed most likely have only been seriously used by author (if at all) and very likely to contain fatal bugs.
 [[Special:Contributions/172.68.11.85|172.68.11.85]] 08:06, 5 October 2016 (UTC) qm2k
-:With fatal bugs, it wouldn't work for author either. However, it can depend on some obscure combination of libraries and tools versions, and you need to guess which libraries it depends on to start with. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 15:33, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
+Also, I believe this misses the joke about Geocities.  I don't believe he is referring to code that was downloaded from Geocities at some distant past date, but code for which you are today given a link on Geocities to get it.  The joke here is despite that fact that the chance of installing that code is zero, it's still better that code needing to be tweaked. [[User:JamesCurran|JamesCurran]] ([[User talk:JamesCurran|talk]]) 15:06, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
+:The chance of successfully finding code from a Geocities link is not zero - there's a nonzero chance that the page survived on the Wayback Machine (and/or on one of the projects dedicated to archiving Geocities specifically). It is, however, still tiny. (Incidentally, what's Tripod? The explanation doesn't mention it at all.) --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.11.85|172.68.11.85]] 23:05, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
-Also, I believe this misses the joke about Geocities.  I don't believe he is referring to code that was downloaded from Geocities at some distant past date, but code for which you are today given a link on Geocities to get it.  The joke here is that, despite the fact that the chance of installing that code is zero, this is still better than code needing to be tweaked. [[User:JamesCurran|JamesCurran]] ([[User talk:JamesCurran|talk]]) 15:06, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
-:The chance of successfully finding code from a Geocities link is not zero - there's a nonzero chance that the page survived on the Wayback Machine (and/or on one of the projects dedicated to archiving Geocities specifically). It is, however, still tiny. (Incidentally, what's Tripod? The explanation doesn't mention it at all.) --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.11.85|172.68.11.85]] 23:05, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
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 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.239.63|162.158.239.63]] 18:58, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
-Anybody else old enough to remember when there were "installation wizards"? Whatever happened to those? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.161|108.162.238.161]] 17:07, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
-:Last time I saw one of those was installing a copy of morrowind from a disk, blast from the past it was.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.214.185|172.70.214.185]] 03:01, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
-Funnily enough, I have found something worse than the title text one, write code based on screenshots of the
-source code and then try to compile.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.214.185|172.70.214.185]] 03:01, 18 March 2022 (UTC)