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Of course it's also possible that the food made them so Nauseated that they also became Nauseous (i.e. they could have started vomiting or smell horrible due to eating the food, causing people around to feel unwell as well). [[User:NormanR|NormanR]] ([[User talk:NormanR|talk]]) 21:13, 29 August 2018 (UTC) | Of course it's also possible that the food made them so Nauseated that they also became Nauseous (i.e. they could have started vomiting or smell horrible due to eating the food, causing people around to feel unwell as well). [[User:NormanR|NormanR]] ([[User talk:NormanR|talk]]) 21:13, 29 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
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− | I believe the reason the two words have become confused is due to the word "noxious". which means "very unpleasant". So, someone who is "nauseated" could feel "noxious", and when wires end up crossed in the brain, they associate it with "nauseous" rather than "noxious". | + | |
+ | I believe the reason the two words have become confused is due to the word "noxious". which means "very unpleasant". So, someone who is "nauseated" could feel "noxious", and when wires end up crossed in the brain, they associate it with "nauseous" rather than "noxious". | ||
: But "noxious" means harmful, poisonous, unpleasant, which is different than "having an unpleasant feeling." Here again, the word "unpleasant" has undergone a shift in usage from "not pleasing" to something more like "displeased" as in the statement "I feel unpleasant," used to mean "I have an unpleasant feeling." [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.46|162.158.75.46]] 04:57, 30 August 2018 (UTC) | : But "noxious" means harmful, poisonous, unpleasant, which is different than "having an unpleasant feeling." Here again, the word "unpleasant" has undergone a shift in usage from "not pleasing" to something more like "displeased" as in the statement "I feel unpleasant," used to mean "I have an unpleasant feeling." [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.46|162.158.75.46]] 04:57, 30 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
− | : Except that the secondary meaning of nauseous has been around for as long as the primary meaning. It is only recent pedantry that has tried to suppress the more ancient use. | + | : Except that the secondary meaning of nauseous has been around for as long as the primary meaning. It is only recent pedantry that has tried to suppress the more ancient use. |
I shall follow this argument with complete disinterest [[User:Arachrah|Arachrah]] ([[User talk:Arachrah|talk]]) | I shall follow this argument with complete disinterest [[User:Arachrah|Arachrah]] ([[User talk:Arachrah|talk]]) | ||
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I looked up "Nauseous" in Dictionary.com and I found the following usage note: | I looked up "Nauseous" in Dictionary.com and I found the following usage note: | ||
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: "The two literal senses of nauseous, “causing nausea” ( a nauseous smell ) and “affected with nausea” ( to feel nauseous ), appear in English at almost the same time in the early 17th century, and both senses are in standard use at the present time. Nauseous is more common than nauseated in the sense “affected with nausea,” despite recent objections by those who imagine the sense to be new. In the sense “causing nausea,” either literally or figuratively, nauseating has become more common than nauseous : a nauseating smell." | : "The two literal senses of nauseous, “causing nausea” ( a nauseous smell ) and “affected with nausea” ( to feel nauseous ), appear in English at almost the same time in the early 17th century, and both senses are in standard use at the present time. Nauseous is more common than nauseated in the sense “affected with nausea,” despite recent objections by those who imagine the sense to be new. In the sense “causing nausea,” either literally or figuratively, nauseating has become more common than nauseous : a nauseating smell." | ||
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− | + | So, originally, it seems Nauseous was used to refer to both the object that causes the nausea, as well as the feeling. So this is not really a case of change of use, but more your typical snobbish people trying to appear smarter by correcting other people's language usage. The spirit of the comic remains, though. [https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nauseous Source] | |
− | + | == does randall read oots?... == | |
− | + | ...because the actual oots-strip contains "nauseous". |