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| I don't see why the explanation of the crappy Sonic movie trailer is in this article, I don't find it relevant to the joke or comic. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.178.221|172.70.178.221]] | | I don't see why the explanation of the crappy Sonic movie trailer is in this article, I don't find it relevant to the joke or comic. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.178.221|172.70.178.221]] |
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− | == Different interpretation ==
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− | It seems like this explanation is saying that Randall is adding "(the Hedgehog)", "(the Ripper)", and "(the Sailor) to "Sonic", "Jack", and "Popeye" respectively. But in reading the comic, the joke seems to be that the ''parenthesis themselves'' are the things being added, not the words inside of them. In other words, the article as written seems to suggest that he would have only said "Sonic" but instead says "Sonic (the Hedgehog)", when actually the joke seems (to me) to be that he's taking "Sonic the Hedgehog" and turning it into "Sonic (the Hedgehog)". --[[User:Raviolio|Raviolio]] ([[User talk:Raviolio|talk]]) 20:58, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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− | :I'm not sure what's wrong with the original version. "Jack" ''would'' typically be too hard to identify, bare of any context (we don't know what that comment is apropos of, so it may have that context if we scroll the conversation back). Assuming that it follows the same fairly easy identification as "Sonic" and "Popeye" then he could easily say "X" instead of "X the Y", and then ''unnecessarily'' add "(the Y)". Like not saying "Cher" but "Cher (the singer)" with perhaps unnecessary additional context.
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− | :If it was rewriting "X the Y" (where more generally by necessity a full title) with parens, there are many other examples that would ''not'' so easily stand alone, in the direction of "Jack". "Alexander the Great", "William the Conqueror", "Pliny the Younger", with the latter even being difficult if you narrow down context to just him and his father... (But in the context of possible Alexanders, talking of Macedonia/Greece beforehand may be enough, and even in context of English(sort of/not British!) kings the tradition is that even temporally close William Rufus/the Second requires the more disambiguation. Third/Fourth are different eras from Williams I-and-II (far beyond even comparing both Theodore and Franklin D. Roosevelt) and possible-future-Fifth will probably be dealt with as King Charles (III) is right now, by current context.)
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− | :Trying to think of more US-centric ones (equivalent to Paul Bunyan and Johnny Appleseed), but I'm getting stuck on "Dwayne (The Rock) Johnson"... ;) Well, there's "Washington (the State/otherwise)", I suppose. ...though what about "Rosie (the Riveter)"? Maybe there's just not that much history (only Popeye is even American, in the comic ...and Midway, perhaps, terratorially).
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− | :Yes, an alternate explanation, but for (most of) the comic examples provided I'm not convinced. The "battle" example in the TT seems to be a deliberate inversion of the established concept for yet another layer of humour/bait-and-switch rather than defining the nature of the preceding ones... [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.94|172.69.194.94]] 01:42, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
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