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| The X axis here is confusing. It's labeled 'workout difficulty' but the arrows are labeled 'progression in time.' | | The X axis here is confusing. It's labeled 'workout difficulty' but the arrows are labeled 'progression in time.' |
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− | : That's because the graphs are illustrating how, over time, people move through a graph of complaint-intensity vs workout difficulty. As time goes on, people can take on increasingly more difficult workouts.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.70.39|172.69.70.39]] 14:14, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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− | :((Repeat of above, probably, as I hit an Edit Conflict from... <s>Someone who did not sign their addition...</s>...someone who belatedly signed it and thus ECed me ''again''! ;) )) It's a scattergraph of whine vs difficulty, with points joined to show (in leiu of a third axis) that a progression through the plane of those two variables is timelike. (It would be possible to have a loop on those two axes with a directional (or bi-directional/reversible) transit passage whichever way up or down either value.)
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− | :Obviously, it has other interesting consequences/conclusions to it (''dt'' is never negatively correlated with ''dx'' on that graph, which is interesting, regardless of dt/dy or dx/dy having clear sub-zero stretches on at least one of the lines/ribbons), but there's no problem with time progressing (at an unknown rate, could still be non-linear while positive) alongside the labelled horizontal incrementing. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.177|172.70.85.177]] 14:15, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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− | ::I feel like this fact could be included a bit more in the explanation. I, too, had some difficulty in processing the graph because, despite the phrase "over time" appearing within the graph, the horizontal axis is not, in fact, a time axis. Perhaps a description of how the graph might look if time ''were'' plotted on the x axis, or alternatively an explanation of why the use of such an axis would be problematic. [[User:Dansiman|Dansiman]] ([[User talk:Dansiman|talk]]) 17:30, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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− | :::Actually, the X axis essentially '''IS''' a time axis, as stated in the arrows. Workout difficulty is being increased over time, as it traditionally does. The difference is merely that it cannot have time values ("Day 1", "Week 1", whatever) on the axis because the pace will vary from person to person. As a whiner and complainer, chances are Randall would progress slowly, while someone more devoted would raise it quicker. This isn't comparing "Me on Day 2 vs. You on Day 2", it's comparing "Me at Stage 2 vs. You at Stage 2, whenever that may be". [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 14:21, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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− | The second paragraph doesn't look right - the arrow for 'people who are aggressively uninterested in and not accustomed to exercise' would start and stop in the top left corner - i.e. they would refuse to increase the difficulty of their exercise above 'barely any', and would complain a LOT about any they had to do. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.77|172.70.162.77]] 14:29, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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− | :My point was someone lazy and disinclined to workout but tries to anyway because they know they should, which is how I believe Randall is self-identifying here. :) Someone exercising for the first time in a LONG time. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 14:25, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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