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:It might depend on the kind of physicist; one who deals with semiconductors wouldn't use "electron hole" to refer to positrons.  It's pretty clear that the beam in the cartoon is ''not'' a stream of positrons, which would be reacting with the electrons in the air and releasing high-energy photons. It's the difference between "fantastic behaviour of a thing that doesn't really exist" and "behaviour that violates the known properties of a thing that does exist".  Perhaps the ST:TNG Enterprise needs to be swept periodically to remove all of the lowadekions it's picked up, fine, but it's a ''bad'' thing to take away all of the baryons. [[User:BunsenH|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH|talk]]) 01:06, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 
:It might depend on the kind of physicist; one who deals with semiconductors wouldn't use "electron hole" to refer to positrons.  It's pretty clear that the beam in the cartoon is ''not'' a stream of positrons, which would be reacting with the electrons in the air and releasing high-energy photons. It's the difference between "fantastic behaviour of a thing that doesn't really exist" and "behaviour that violates the known properties of a thing that does exist".  Perhaps the ST:TNG Enterprise needs to be swept periodically to remove all of the lowadekions it's picked up, fine, but it's a ''bad'' thing to take away all of the baryons. [[User:BunsenH|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH|talk]]) 01:06, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 
: *"an electron hole is indistinguishable from a positron"* - oh, an electron hole is very, very distinguishable from a positron.  They hold the same charge, so they are the same in that respect, but otherwise they have quite a lot of different characteristics. For one thing a positron has mass whereas an electron hole, not so much.  
 
: *"an electron hole is indistinguishable from a positron"* - oh, an electron hole is very, very distinguishable from a positron.  They hold the same charge, so they are the same in that respect, but otherwise they have quite a lot of different characteristics. For one thing a positron has mass whereas an electron hole, not so much.  
 
::an electron hole in solid state has an effective mass. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_mass_(solid-state_physics). I renew my original point. Electron holes and positrons are the same thing. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.91|162.158.158.91]] 16:56, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 
  
 
:If you shot out a beam of electron holes (however you are planning to manage that) and then followed it up by shooting a beam of positrons, I very well guarantee that you are going to be able to tell that the two are vastly different things.  You might not even need any special equipment to do so . . . [[Special:Contributions/162.158.174.196|162.158.174.196]] 18:16, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 
:If you shot out a beam of electron holes (however you are planning to manage that) and then followed it up by shooting a beam of positrons, I very well guarantee that you are going to be able to tell that the two are vastly different things.  You might not even need any special equipment to do so . . . [[Special:Contributions/162.158.174.196|162.158.174.196]] 18:16, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

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