Difference between revisions of "Talk:3095: Archaea"
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:After ruling out ''absolutely'' everything else (primarly that being sunshine, moon light and good times), I'm gonna suggest that it's "the boogie". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.216.115|162.158.216.115]] 23:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC) | :After ruling out ''absolutely'' everything else (primarly that being sunshine, moon light and good times), I'm gonna suggest that it's "the boogie". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.216.115|162.158.216.115]] 23:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC) | ||
''"Archaea has" in the caption is unfortunate, as it denotes that a lineage (a branch of a phylogenetic tree) has become pathogenic. Pathogens are living cells, not lines on a page. "Archaeans have" would have been better.'' I'm not 100% sure on the way Archaea is used grammatically in English, but isn't Archaea the plural of Archaeon, so it should be ''Archaea have''? Is the word Archaeans normally used?[[Special:Contributions/162.158.233.117|162.158.233.117]] 07:37, 29 May 2025 (UTC) | ''"Archaea has" in the caption is unfortunate, as it denotes that a lineage (a branch of a phylogenetic tree) has become pathogenic. Pathogens are living cells, not lines on a page. "Archaeans have" would have been better.'' I'm not 100% sure on the way Archaea is used grammatically in English, but isn't Archaea the plural of Archaeon, so it should be ''Archaea have''? Is the word Archaeans normally used?[[Special:Contributions/162.158.233.117|162.158.233.117]] 07:37, 29 May 2025 (UTC) | ||
| + | : In math(s), the original latin and greek has remained kinda pristine in modern english. In medicine and taxonomy, it's a dumpster fire of vagary and inconsistency comparable to the US tax code. As far as I'm concerned, use whatever pluralisation you want, you won't degrade the language any further. --DW [[Special:Contributions/162.158.187.177|162.158.187.177]] 15:19, 29 May 2025 (UTC) | ||
| + | :'Archaea' is indeed the plural of 'archaeon', and congratulations for getting this correct! In an English-speaking world in which 'bacteria/bacterias' (bacterium/bacteria), 'algae/algaes' (alga/algae), and, for that matter, 'stadium/stadiums' (stadium/stadia) have become commonplace even in scientific publications [see ''dumpster fire'', above], knowledge of how to handle the singulars and plurals of Latin and latinized Greek loanwords is increasingly rare. The domain name 'Archaea' is in the plural, because it stands for a group of organisms. The same is generally true for the names of taxonomic groups above genus. However, because the name stands for ''one'' group of organisms, it is possible to treat the name as a {{w|Collective_noun|collective noun}} which takes a singular verb form. Thus, [the domain name] ''Archaea has'' and ''Archaea'' [in the specimen/culture collection] ''have'' are both correct, with context the determining factor. Replacing Archaea with [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Archaean Archaean] ducks the Latin and places singulars and plurals more in line with common English constructions (archaean/archaeans). Therefore, ''Archaea have'' and ''Archaeans have'' are both appropriate for the caption, whereas ''Archaea has'' is not. Confused yet? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.41.36|162.158.41.36]] 15:29, 29 May 2025 (UTC) | ||
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:Perhaps they've risen up en masse, forming a state of Archaea, with a war cabinet and army to take on the humans.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.241.51|172.71.241.51]] 10:11, 29 May 2025 (UTC) | :Perhaps they've risen up en masse, forming a state of Archaea, with a war cabinet and army to take on the humans.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.241.51|172.71.241.51]] 10:11, 29 May 2025 (UTC) | ||
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great, next time I get a disease caused by archea, I'll know who to blame 172.70.111.123 23:16, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- After ruling out absolutely everything else (primarly that being sunshine, moon light and good times), I'm gonna suggest that it's "the boogie". 162.158.216.115 23:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
"Archaea has" in the caption is unfortunate, as it denotes that a lineage (a branch of a phylogenetic tree) has become pathogenic. Pathogens are living cells, not lines on a page. "Archaeans have" would have been better. I'm not 100% sure on the way Archaea is used grammatically in English, but isn't Archaea the plural of Archaeon, so it should be Archaea have? Is the word Archaeans normally used?162.158.233.117 07:37, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- In math(s), the original latin and greek has remained kinda pristine in modern english. In medicine and taxonomy, it's a dumpster fire of vagary and inconsistency comparable to the US tax code. As far as I'm concerned, use whatever pluralisation you want, you won't degrade the language any further. --DW 162.158.187.177 15:19, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- 'Archaea' is indeed the plural of 'archaeon', and congratulations for getting this correct! In an English-speaking world in which 'bacteria/bacterias' (bacterium/bacteria), 'algae/algaes' (alga/algae), and, for that matter, 'stadium/stadiums' (stadium/stadia) have become commonplace even in scientific publications [see dumpster fire, above], knowledge of how to handle the singulars and plurals of Latin and latinized Greek loanwords is increasingly rare. The domain name 'Archaea' is in the plural, because it stands for a group of organisms. The same is generally true for the names of taxonomic groups above genus. However, because the name stands for one group of organisms, it is possible to treat the name as a collective noun which takes a singular verb form. Thus, [the domain name] Archaea has and Archaea [in the specimen/culture collection] have are both correct, with context the determining factor. Replacing Archaea with Archaean ducks the Latin and places singulars and plurals more in line with common English constructions (archaean/archaeans). Therefore, Archaea have and Archaeans have are both appropriate for the caption, whereas Archaea has is not. Confused yet? 162.158.41.36 15:29, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps they've risen up en masse, forming a state of Archaea, with a war cabinet and army to take on the humans.172.71.241.51 10:11, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- Be careful what you wish for ... 162.158.41.36 15:29, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
