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Title text: It's because you're still running Windows 2000 or XP. (Windows NT 5.x) You need at least Windows Vista (6.0) to apply the update... [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.53|108.162.221.53]] 02:13, 29 March 2014 (UTC) | Title text: It's because you're still running Windows 2000 or XP. (Windows NT 5.x) You need at least Windows Vista (6.0) to apply the update... [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.53|108.162.221.53]] 02:13, 29 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
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| + | Ok what is happening | ||
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| + | In the comic's system message the "Ok" is an implicit command to continue with the suggested action, especially as it is the leftmost item [...] The placement, and the perhaps more 'ready' state, of the 'OK' button implies that it is the default action | ||
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| + | No it's not. In modern software design, there is almost always a main action (on the right) and a secondary action (on the left). In the comic, OK means the user acknowledges the notice and closes the pop-up. The main action, Download, is highlighted and right aligned. It is common for popups to use "OK" to dismiss the message when the other action isn't related. | ||
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| + | The use of "Ok" is more suited for a message box with only the possibility to acknowledge and clear a necessary notification of something that has/will happen, with no other course of action available. | ||
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| + | ...which is exactly the case here, since we have a different button. The joke isn't in the buttons, it's in the message itself. | ||
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| + | The "Download" is more explicitly linked to the suggested action, but does not seem to complement the other item properly. Additionally, it is differently rendered, either given focus (the default action, which is often positive-to-the-left or negative-to-the-right) or because it is actually disabled. | ||
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| + | It's not disabled, it's highlighted. Because it's the main action and it's on the right. | ||
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| + | A further possible reason for its different appearance is that it is indicating that it is the process of being clicked | ||
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| + | ??????? | ||
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| + | This then means that, if it unintuitively leads to the non-positive action, many users may just ignore the update. | ||
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| + | which is exactly the intended behaviour! It would be a terrible user experience if the user opened the software but was forced not use use it because of a new update. | ||
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| + | I think that entire paragraph (or paragraphs, since you've expanded them) should be removed. This is a perfectly normal button placement and having it in the explanation just distracts the reader from the actual joke in the comic. --[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 13:38, 7 August 2025 (UTC) | ||
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Is there the additional joke of choosing "Ok (to download)" or "Download (it's ok!)"? And all the strip it lacks (for space, opportunity or brevity) is an all-but-forced toolbar download. Unless that's counted as part of the Java download. (Ask? Really?) 178.99.244.212 13:00, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- In my eyes the joke goes a bit further: The window ask the user to install an update for the update-manager so it can download new updates for the update-downloader β so software A would like to update software B that might update the real software in/at the end. --DaB. (talk) 13:12, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- Or you can just click on the close button.
I am surprised noone commented on the connection to the Rush Song 2112 and it's Oracle. 99.102.154.28 01:19, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Title text: It's because you're still running Windows 2000 or XP. (Windows NT 5.x) You need at least Windows Vista (6.0) to apply the update... 108.162.221.53 02:13, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Ok what is happening
In the comic's system message the "Ok" is an implicit command to continue with the suggested action, especially as it is the leftmost item [...] The placement, and the perhaps more 'ready' state, of the 'OK' button implies that it is the default action
No it's not. In modern software design, there is almost always a main action (on the right) and a secondary action (on the left). In the comic, OK means the user acknowledges the notice and closes the pop-up. The main action, Download, is highlighted and right aligned. It is common for popups to use "OK" to dismiss the message when the other action isn't related.
The use of "Ok" is more suited for a message box with only the possibility to acknowledge and clear a necessary notification of something that has/will happen, with no other course of action available.
...which is exactly the case here, since we have a different button. The joke isn't in the buttons, it's in the message itself.
The "Download" is more explicitly linked to the suggested action, but does not seem to complement the other item properly. Additionally, it is differently rendered, either given focus (the default action, which is often positive-to-the-left or negative-to-the-right) or because it is actually disabled.
It's not disabled, it's highlighted. Because it's the main action and it's on the right.
A further possible reason for its different appearance is that it is indicating that it is the process of being clicked
???????
This then means that, if it unintuitively leads to the non-positive action, many users may just ignore the update.
which is exactly the intended behaviour! It would be a terrible user experience if the user opened the software but was forced not use use it because of a new update.
I think that entire paragraph (or paragraphs, since you've expanded them) should be removed. This is a perfectly normal button placement and having it in the explanation just distracts the reader from the actual joke in the comic. --FaviFake (talk) 13:38, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
