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==Explanation==
 
==Explanation==
The comic consists of a flowchart depicting various ways to tell what era a map is from based on present country borders and land forms. (Except in the Not a Political Map Branch (from "Can you see the familiar continents?" downwards), the comic applies to a political map.) While many of the options are very serious, a few bizarre options reference fictional maps ({{w|Discworld}}, {{w|Narnia}}, and Tolkien's {{w|Middle-earth}}), or consider that seagulls, staplers, tubas, or breadboxes could be mistaken for a map. Randall also mentions US President {{w|Jimmy Carter}} being [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_rabbit_incident attacked by a giant swimming rabbit], an event previously referenced as one we must never forget in [[204: America]].
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{{incomplete|Errors in the year etc. should be collected in the [[#Trivia|trivia section]]. Another table with the possible year ranges and the length of their interval would be interesting. (Only for the political maps) What are the longest ranges after 1805 and how finely dissected are the maps closer to today?}}
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The comic consists of a flowchart depicting various ways to tell what era a map is from based on present country borders and land forms. (Except in the Not a Political Map Branch (from "Can you see the familiar continents?" downwards), the comic applies to a political map.) While many of the options are very serious, a few bizarre options reference fictional maps ({{w|Discworld}}, {{w|Narnia}}, and Tolkien's {{w|Middle-earth}}), or consider that seagulls, staplers, tubas, or breadboxes could be mistaken for a map. Randall also mentions US President {{w|Jimmy Carter}} being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit, an event previously referenced as one we must never forget in [[204: America]].
  
 
The flowchart, although probably effective in eventually identifying the production year of certain maps, is designed in a rather inefficient way, as some early distinctions are already on a very detailed level before some really important distinctions (fictional or non-political map) are made. This, of course, adds to the humorous tone of the comic. It is also hampered by several smaller or larger error (see [[#Trivia|trivia]]), the biggest being a whole section on I-25 that gives years in the range 1948–1952, before I-25 was built, and coming from a question that fixed the year range to 1960–1961.
 
The flowchart, although probably effective in eventually identifying the production year of certain maps, is designed in a rather inefficient way, as some early distinctions are already on a very detailed level before some really important distinctions (fictional or non-political map) are made. This, of course, adds to the humorous tone of the comic. It is also hampered by several smaller or larger error (see [[#Trivia|trivia]]), the biggest being a whole section on I-25 that gives years in the range 1948–1952, before I-25 was built, and coming from a question that fixed the year range to 1960–1961.
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| '''{{w|South Africa}}?'''
 
| '''{{w|South Africa}}?'''
| The {{w|Union of South Africa}} was created in 1910 out of the four British colonies ({{w|Cape Colony}}, {{w|Colony of Natal|Natal}}, {{w|Transvaal Colony|Transvaal}}, and {{w|Orange River Colony|Orange River}}), although South Africa was then not yet fully independent from the United Kingdom (which would not happen until 1931).
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| The {{w|Union of South Africa}} was created in 1910 out of the four British colonies ({{w|Cape Colony}}, {{w|Colony of Natal|Natal}}, {{w|Transvall Colony|Transvaal}}, and {{w|Orange River Colony|Orange River}}), although South Africa was then not yet fully independent from the United Kingdom (which would not happen until 1931).
 
| 1868–1928
 
| 1868–1928
 
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| '''"Buda" and "Pest" or "Budapest"?'''
 
| '''"Buda" and "Pest" or "Budapest"?'''
| In 1873, the Hungarian cities of {{w|Buda}} and {{w|Pest, Hungary|Pest}} joined together to form the city of {{w|Budapest}}.
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| In 1873, the cities of {{w|Buda}} and {{w|Pest, Hungary|Pest}} joined together to form the city of {{w|Budapest}}.
 
| 1868–84
 
| 1868–84
 
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| '''Austria-Hungary?'''
 
| '''Austria-Hungary?'''
| {{w|Austria-Hungary}} formed in 1867 and dissolved in 1918. (Clueless bureaucrats of the time loved to abbreviate the name to just "Austria", but mapmakers tended to be more careful than that.)
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| {{w|Austria-Hungary}} formed in 1867 and dissolved in 1918. (However, during that time period, it was frequently called simply "Austria"; it is more consistently called "Austria-Hungary" in historical maps created later, for example, in history textbooks illustrating the alliances of {{w|World War I}}.)
 
| 1910–28
 
| 1910–28
 
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| '''How far east do the American prairies reach?'''
 
| '''How far east do the American prairies reach?'''
| As settlers made their way west, the prairie land in the {{w|Great Plains}} region was steadily replaced by farmland and ranches. By the 1920s, most of the land had been converted to agricultural use, and the last of the prairie was largely obliterated by the {{w|Dust Bowl}}s in the 1930s. The dividing lines correspond roughly to the three types of prairie: {{w|tallgrass prairie}} grew between the Mississippi and Indiana, {{w|mixed grass prairie}} covered Nebraska and other states on the {{w|100th meridian west}}, and {{w|shortgrass prairie}} covered the remaining area east of the Rocky Mountains. There's some overlap in the dates, since it's fairly arbitrary at what point you say the prairies stopped existing. There are still patches of prairie (covering about 1% of their former reach), but these are probably not visible in a satellite image.
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| As settlers made their way west, the prairie land in the {{w|Great Plains}} region was steadily replaced by farmland and ranches. By the 1920s, most of the land had been converted to agricultural use, and the last of the prairie was largely obliterated by the {{w|Dust Bowl}}s in the 1930s. The dividing lines correspond roughly to the three types of prairie: {{w|tallgrass prairie}} grew between the Mississippi and Indiana, {{w|mixed grass prairie}} covered Nebraska and other states on the {{w|100th meridian west}}, and {{w|shortgrass prairie}} covered the remaining area east of the Rocky Mountains. There's some overlap in the dates, since it's fairly arbitrary at what you point you say the prairies stopped existing. There are still patches of prairie (covering about 1% of their former reach), but these are probably not visible in a satellite image.
  
 
| 1970s-
 
| 1970s-
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| '''Beleriand?'''
 
| '''Beleriand?'''
| {{w|Beleriand}} was broken in the {{w|War of Wrath}} in the year 583 in the {{w|Years of the Sun}} in the {{w|First Age}}. The First Age itself ran for 450 Valian Years and 590 Years of the Sun, adding up to between 5,023 and 65,390 Years of the Sun, depending on the conversion factor used ({{w|J. R. R. Tolkien}} has given several during the years). Note that Randall has apparently ignored the time before the First Age (4,550 Valian Years).
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| {{w|Beleriand}} was broken in the {{w|War of Wrath}} in the year 583 in the {{w|Years of the Sun}} in the {{w|First Age}} The First Age itself ran for 450 Valian Years and 590 Years of the Sun, adding up to between 5,023 and 65,390 Years of the Sun, depending on the conversion factor used ({{w|J. R. R. Tolkien}} has given several during the years). Note that Randall has apparently ignored the time before the First Age (4,550 Valian Years).
 
| S.A. c. 1000-
 
| S.A. c. 1000-
 
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! 48
 
! 48
 
| '''Is it larger than a breadbox?'''
 
| '''Is it larger than a breadbox?'''
| A typical, generic question asked by Steve Allen on ''{{w|What's My Line?}}'', and is often used when playing {{w|Twenty Questions}}. However, instead of asking further questions to narrow down the choices, the comic just gives a guess for each response. The comic guesses a breadbox itself as something about the same size as a breadbox.  
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| A typical, generic question asked Steve Allen on ''{{w|What's My Line?}}'', and is often used when playing {{w|Twenty Questions}}. However, instead of asking further questions to narrow down the choices, the comic just gives a guess for each response. The comic guesses a breadbox itself as something about the same size as a breadbox.  
 
| Doesn't bite and not a map
 
| Doesn't bite and not a map
 
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! 50
 
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| '''Does the screeching chill your blood and herald death?'''
 
| '''Does the screeching chill your blood and herald death?'''
| ''Note: Title text question.'' Likely, if a banshee is being held, or flapping around the room, one would have bigger problems than its identification. Also, heralding of death is a difficult quality to identify.
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| ''Note: Title text question.''
 
| Bites, and screeches and flaps around the room breaking things if let go
 
| Bites, and screeches and flaps around the room breaking things if let go
 
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* Missing a piece: 1948 ('''Stop''')
 
* Missing a piece: 1948 ('''Stop''')
* Fine: 1949–1952 (Go to 63)
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* Fine: 1949–1952 ('''Stop''')
 
|-
 
|-
 
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* Tanzania: 1965–1971
 
* Tanzania: 1965–1971
 
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* British: 1960 ('''Stop''')
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* British: 1960–1961 (Go to 63)
 
* Tanganyika: 1961–1964 ('''Stop''')
 
* Tanganyika: 1961–1964 ('''Stop''')
 
* Tanzania: 1965–1972 (stated in comic as 1964–1971 – a discrepancy) ('''Stop''')
 
* Tanzania: 1965–1972 (stated in comic as 1964–1971 – a discrepancy) ('''Stop''')
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| '''The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is... '''
 
| '''The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is... '''
| {{w|Interstate 25 in New Mexico|I-25}} didn't exist for any of the years listed for this item, since the Interstate Highway System wasn't launched until 1956.  The highway designation on maps printed during the years listed was {{w|U.S. Route 85#New Mexico|US-85}}, and it was first replaced by I-25 in 1970–1990.  The town changed its name from Hot Springs to "{{w|Truth or Consequences, New Mexico|Truth or Consequences}}" in 1950, although locals say that it provides more of the latter than of the former. Initially there was an error as this question was on a path from the British Tanganyika (directly above it) instead of from the "Fine" option of "Canada is.." but this has been fixed.
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| {{w|Interstate 25 in New Mexico|I-25}} didn't exist for any of the years listed for this item, since the Interstate Highway System wasn't launched until 1956.  The highway designation on maps printed during the years listed was {{w|U.S. Route 85#New Mexico|US-85}}, and it was first replaced by I-25 in 1970–1990.  The town changed its name from Hot Springs to "{{w|Truth or Consequences, New Mexico|Truth or Consequences}}" in 1950, although locals say that it provides more of the latter than of the former. Still the question would have made sense (although it should have been US-85) had it not been for the fact that the whole question is for the wrong time period, as the search tree leading to a British Tanganyika is only the period 1960–1961. Actually this item seems like it should actually follow from the "Fine" option of "Canada is.." from 1949 to 1952 as it is in the same time period.
|1949–1952
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|1960–1961
 
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* Hot Springs: 1916–49
 
* Hot Springs: 1916–49
 
* Truth or Consequences: 1950+
 
* Truth or Consequences: 1950+
 
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* Hot Springs: 1948–49 ('''Stop''')
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* Hot Springs: 1948–49 ('''Stop''') (a discrepancy as this is for the period 1960–61)
* Truth or Consequences: 1950–52 ('''Stop''')
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* Truth or Consequences: 1950–52 ('''Stop''') (a discrepancy as this is for the period 1960–61)
 
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| '''Republic of the Upper Volta or Burkina Faso?'''
 
| '''Republic of the Upper Volta or Burkina Faso?'''
| {{w|Burkina Faso}} was named the {{w|Republic of Upper Volta}} until 1984, when the president Thomas Sankara decided to rename it to promote a sense of unity in the nation and in an anti-colonial statement.
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| {{w|Burkina Faso}} was named the {{w|Republic of the Upper Volta}} until 1984, when the president Thomas Sankara decided to rename it to promote a sense of unity in the nation and in an anti-colonial statement.
 
|1982–1988
 
|1982–1988
 
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| '''Is Crimea disputed?'''
 
| '''Is Crimea disputed?'''
| In 2014, a {{w|Euromaidan|revolution}} ousted the current Ukrainian president. {{w|Crimea}} had its own civil unrest, and Russian troops exploited the unrest to launch {{w|Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation|an invasion}}. A {{w|2014_Crimean_status_referendum|referendum}} was held on March 16 2014 and ostensibly decided in favor of Russian annexation. Many nations, including all member states of the EU, the USA, and Canada, disputed the democratic legitimacy of the referendum. As a result, depending on where you get your maps, Crimea may be marked as disputed or as part of one or the other countries. [http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/04/12/302337754/google-maps-displays-crimean-border-differently-in-russia-u-s Google Maps Ukraine shows it as solely Ukrainian while Google Maps Russia shows it as Russian].
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| In 2014, a {{w|Euromaidan|revolution}} ousted the current Ukrainian president. {{w|Crimea}} had its own civil unrest, and Russian troops exploited the unrest to launch {{w|Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation|an invasion}}. A referendum, where many nations, including all member states of the EU, the USA, and Canada, disputed the democratic legitimacy of the referendum, was held during this and ostensibly decided in favor of Russian annexation. Depending on where you get your maps, Crimea might not be marked as disputed–[http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/04/12/302337754/google-maps-displays-crimean-border-differently-in-russia-u-s Google Maps Ukraine shows it as solely Ukrainian while Google Maps Russia shows it as Russian].
 
|2011+
 
|2011+
 
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| '''"Colorado" or "Danger—Radioactive Exclusion Zone—Avoid"?'''
 
| '''"Colorado" or "Danger—Radioactive Exclusion Zone—Avoid"?'''
| This entry and the one below it are now referring to hypothetical future events: specifically, a huge radioactivity event in {{w|Colorado}} that takes place some time in 2022. Colorado houses several important USA defense installations which, in popular culture, become targets for nuclear strikes in the event of an all out war between the USA and Russia (for example over the {{w|political status of Crimea}}). Installations include {{w|Peterson Air Force Base}} and the heavily fortified {{w|Cheyenne Mountain Complex}} housing {{w|NORAD}} command functions. Colorado also has a previous history of radioactive contamination–it was home to uranium mines, nuclear tests (including {{w|Project Rulison}}, an attempt to use nuclear bombs to drill for natural gas that ended up making the gas radioactive) and the controversial {{w|Rocky Flats Plant}}, a nuclear weapons manufacturing facility that suffered {{w|Radioactive contamination from the Rocky Flats Plant|several fires and leaks}} and was ultimately raided and shut down by the FBI.   None of these has yet caused spiders to mutate.{{Citation needed}}
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| This entry and the one below it are now referring to hypothetical future events: specifically, a huge radioactivity event in {{w|Colorado}} that takes place some time in 2022. Colorado has a previous history of radioactive contamination–it was home to uranium mines, nuclear tests (including {{w|Project Rulison}}, an attempt to use nuclear bombs to drill for natural gas that ended up making the gas radioactive) and the controversial {{w|Rocky Flats Plant}}, a nuclear weapons manufacturing facility that suffered {{w|Radioactive contamination from the Rocky Flats Plant|several fires and leaks}} and was ultimately raided and shut down by the FBI. None of these has yet caused spiders to mutate.{{Citation needed}}
 
|2014+
 
|2014+
 
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::::::::The United States?
 
::::::::The United States?
 
:::::::::No
 
:::::::::No
::::::::::How sure are you that this map is in English?
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::::::::::How sure are you that this map is in english?
 
:::::::::Yes
 
:::::::::Yes
 
::::::::::Texas is...
 
::::::::::Texas is...
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:::::::::::::::Yes <span style="color:gray">1811–17</span>
 
:::::::::::::::Yes <span style="color:gray">1811–17</span>
 
:::::::::::::The US
 
:::::::::::::The US
::::::::::::::Venezuela and/or Ecuador?
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::::::::::::::Venezuela and/or ecuador?
 
:::::::::::::::No <span style="color:gray">1818–29</span>
 
:::::::::::::::No <span style="color:gray">1818–29</span>
 
:::::::::::::::Yes <span style="color:gray">1830–33</span>
 
:::::::::::::::Yes <span style="color:gray">1830–33</span>
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::::::::::::::::::Canada is...
 
::::::::::::::::::Canada is...
 
:::::::::::::::::::Missing a piece <span style="color:gray">1948</span>
 
:::::::::::::::::::Missing a piece <span style="color:gray">1948</span>
:::::::::::::::::::Fine
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:::::::::::::::::::Fine <span style="color:gray">1949–52</span>
::::::::::::::::::::The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is...
 
:::::::::::::::::::::Hot Springs <span style="color:gray">1948-49</span>
 
:::::::::::::::::::::Truth or Consequences <span style="color:gray">1950–52</span>
 
 
:::::::::::::::::Ethiopia <span style="color:gray">1952–53</span>
 
:::::::::::::::::Ethiopia <span style="color:gray">1952–53</span>
 
:::::::::::::::Yes
 
:::::::::::::::Yes
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:::::::::::::::No
 
:::::::::::::::No
 
::::::::::::::::Is the area south of Lake Victoria...
 
::::::::::::::::Is the area south of Lake Victoria...
:::::::::::::::::British <span style="color:gray">1960</span>
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:::::::::::::::::British
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::::::::::::::::::The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is...
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:::::::::::::::::::Hot Springs <span style="color:gray">1948–49</span>
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:::::::::::::::::::Truth or Consequences <span style="color:gray">1950–52</span>
 
:::::::::::::::::Tanganyika <span style="color:gray">1961–64</span>
 
:::::::::::::::::Tanganyika <span style="color:gray">1961–64</span>
 
:::::::::::::::::Tanzania <span style="color:gray">1965–71</span>
 
:::::::::::::::::Tanzania <span style="color:gray">1965–71</span>
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==Trivia==
 
==Trivia==
*There are some errors and several discrepancies in the comic regarding how year ranges are given although it appears Randall has been fixing these errors.
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*There are some errors and several discrepancies in the comic regarding how year ranges are given.
**I-25 was built in 1970–1990 through New Mexico; see the [[#Table|table]] above for more info.
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**The largest error seems to be a real mistake, rather than just not being precise.
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***It regards the entry ''The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is...'' that gives a year range of 1948–1952, but to get to this entry, the previous answer ''British'' fixes the time to 1960–1961. Also, I-25 was built in 1970–1990 through New Mexico; see the [[#Table|table]] above for more info.
  
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*A map of Earth in the distant past (eg. Pangaea), another celestial body (eg. Mars) or fictional realm aside from Middle Earth, Narnia, Redwall, or Discworld will be misidentified as a stapler. This may impede the chart's use when identifying maps found in many fantasy novels.{{Citation needed}}
  
 
{{comic discussion}}
 
{{comic discussion}}
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[[Category:Spiders]]
 
[[Category:Spiders]]
 
[[Category:Chronicles of Narnia]]
 
[[Category:Chronicles of Narnia]]
[[Category:Redwall]]
 

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