Editing Talk:1264: Slideshow

flickr devs recently changed the site's layout in a quite obtrusive way, which resulted in an outcry from their user base. Among the objectionable changes are slideshows which use the so called "Ken Burns effect". Quoting from Wikipedia: The feature enables a widely used technique of embedding still photographs in motion pictures, displayed with slow zooming and panning effects, and fading transitions between frames. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Burns_Effect) ... [[User:Plx|Plx]] ([[User talk:Plx|talk]]) 06:57, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
:Can someone provide an example of this "Ken Burns effect" on Flickr? Was it removed? I'm not exactly an active user of Flickr, but I can't it anywhere. [[Special:Contributions/96.254.46.231|96.254.46.231]] 13:58, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Adobe Flash isn't mentioned anywhere in the strip, but I think all those "cool-looking" Flash websites that are impossible to search, quote, or link to but still immensely popular with the marketing and PR people may have been an inspiration. --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] ([[User talk:Koveras|talk]]) 07:42, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

:The inability to link to may be the reason of change. Lot of web owners would prefer if everyone would view few ads before actually seeing what he wanted to see (in flickr's case, obviously the image). While it's understandable, it's also really annoying. Site which can be searched, quoted and linked to (including hotlinking) is much more usable, and usually even if you don't search, quote and/or link to it, but marketing people are still trying to {{w|You_can't_have_your_cake_and_eat_it|eat their cookie and keep it too}}. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 10:27, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
:Bad web design is always a factor (preference to forcing embed revnue-generating ads aside).  I once (if you bear with me) redid a website whose pages were images.  Not predominantly images (including some title headers, to get the look ''juuust'' right) but ''whole'' images, one huge one per page (made to fit a conservatively assumed (non-mobile) internal browser dimension), with imagemapped links over the text links within the copious (perfectly rasterised) text.  Just because the previous designer had wanted it to look pixel-perfect, or thought it was more efficient.  (Repeat after me: "keep content separate from style". (And "accessible to the visually impaired" would have been nice, too, just for courtesy!))
:The only exception was a contact-form page, where the standard HTML <input> tags were used in a frame-held blank space.  Perfectly positioned using absolute coordinates in CSS.  Fair enough, except that the designer had used a page-builder (of course!) and constructed the page asynchronously in WYSIWYG, so that tabbing between fields jumped all round the page, reflecting the order in the Markup (no relation to page order, and 'labels' and fields not next to each other).
:The first thing I did (unnecessarily, but for 'fun') was redo the existing pages ''properly'', and show the owner how much better (and smaller, even non-compressed ASCII and HTML tagging) his site was even without any visual changes.  (Then I revamped it completely, keeping it technically competent but I'm never that happy with my own stylings.  Owner seemed happy with one of options I put forward, though, even without further tweeks.)
:OTOH, there are those so bad that they're... well, required viewing.  RIP 'Yvette's Bridal Formal', you will be missed. (Many discussions, multiple screenshots and several archives available via your friendly neighbourhood search-engine, if you need it.  Totally SFW, if you avoid the 4chan discussions of it, but perhaps not for sanity.)
:Back on topic, yeah, I'm also against such pretentiousness (if not verbosity). [[Special:Contributions/31.111.104.72|31.111.104.72]] 13:20, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

...and it looks like flickr is currently down.... [[User:Spongebog|Spongebog]] ([[User talk:Spongebog|talk]]) 10:59, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
:Maybe someone is hard at work collecting those bonus points? [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 13:16, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
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 flickr devs recently changed the site's layout in a quite obtrusive way, which resulted in an outcry from their user base. Among the objectionable changes are slideshows which use the so called "Ken Burns effect". Quoting from Wikipedia: The feature enables a widely used technique of embedding still photographs in motion pictures, displayed with slow zooming and panning effects, and fading transitions between frames. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Burns_Effect) ... [[User:Plx|Plx]] ([[User talk:Plx|talk]]) 06:57, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 :Can someone provide an example of this "Ken Burns effect" on Flickr? Was it removed? I'm not exactly an active user of Flickr, but I can't it anywhere. [[Special:Contributions/96.254.46.231|96.254.46.231]] 13:58, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
-:: On flickr, click on any picture, then click on the picture again (take you to full size), then click again (taking you to full screen) -- and then you should see it, if not click again [[User:Spongebog|Spongebog]] ([[User talk:Spongebog|talk]]) 20:28, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
-::: Ah, very good. Although, to be fair, this isn't as intrusive as Randall makes it out to be. It's only shown when you enter that full screen presentational view so it seems appropriate to me. I think the Flickr devs intended this to be a nice way to display a slideshow at a convention booth or the like. [[Special:Contributions/96.254.46.231|96.254.46.231]] 13:29, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 Adobe Flash isn't mentioned anywhere in the strip, but I think all those "cool-looking" Flash websites that are impossible to search, quote, or link to but still immensely popular with the marketing and PR people may have been an inspiration. --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] ([[User talk:Koveras|talk]]) 07:42, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
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 ...and it looks like flickr is currently down.... [[User:Spongebog|Spongebog]] ([[User talk:Spongebog|talk]]) 10:59, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 :Maybe someone is hard at work collecting those bonus points? [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 13:16, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
-:lol [[Special:Contributions/89.176.80.96|89.176.80.96]] 09:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
-== Snapchat stories ==
-Lately Snapchat Stories from some companies have been doing this really badly, where they have animated motion in paragraphs that often progress before you can finish reading them, and loop their stupid intro and outro animations in an incredibly frustrating, distracting way. You can never tell if you need to go back a slide, or wait for the given slide to loop back to the part you were reading. It’s a terrible user experience! [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 21:09, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
-my friend's site in a nutshell [[User:An user who has no account yet|An user who has no account yet]] ([[User talk:An user who has no account yet|talk]]) 17:40, 7 September 2023 (UTC)