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| I believe the good telescopes are high so they get less atmospheric disturbances. The height of a mountain will still be insignificant compared to distances measured in light years.--The man they call Jayne[[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.183|108.162.237.183]] 11:50, 8 May 2015 (UTC) | | I believe the good telescopes are high so they get less atmospheric disturbances. The height of a mountain will still be insignificant compared to distances measured in light years.--The man they call Jayne[[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.183|108.162.237.183]] 11:50, 8 May 2015 (UTC) |
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− | I actually thought that maybe physics just work differently for him so he was actually standing among the stars (like someone might stand among lightning bugs) and actually examining them. {{unsigned ip|108.162.219.193}} | + | I actually thought that maybe physics just work differently for him so he was actually standing among the stars (like someone might stand among lightning bugs) and actually examining them. |
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| I don't think the titletext has anything to do with shaking about, I think it's a joke about people being nervious about breaking the microscope. [[User:Halfhat|Halfhat]] ([[User talk:Halfhat|talk]]) 15:57, 8 May 2015 (UTC) | | I don't think the titletext has anything to do with shaking about, I think it's a joke about people being nervious about breaking the microscope. [[User:Halfhat|Halfhat]] ([[User talk:Halfhat|talk]]) 15:57, 8 May 2015 (UTC) |
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− | My take is Beret Guy is using "cartoon physics" or in this case "comic physics". The first few panels we assume the stars are in the distance. Since we are looking at a 2D representation (drawing), we can't be sure. But our past experiences with the night sky and with pictures or situations such as this guides our perception. However, because of Beret Guy's weird take on everything, he perceives the stars as they actually ARE in the comic: just white dots on a black background, kind of like a poor man's planetarium. He wants to get a closer look at some that are higher up on the wall/background so climbs up a ladder and uses his magnifying glass. It's a little like the cartoon where the coyote paints a tunnel on a rock, thinking the roadrunner will run into it. Instead, the roadrunner just goes through the painted tunnel like it was real. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.124|108.162.219.124]] 19:34, 8 May 2015 (UTC)Pat
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− | It's also possible that Megan ''and'' her telescope are part of a backdrop of some sort - I don't think she moves at all in the comic. --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.182|173.245.54.182]] 21:44, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
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− | : She does move; look closely at her hair. One could say she is looking "sidelong" at Beret Guy, which is a gesture that communicates something. [[User:Taibhse|Taibhse]] ([[User talk:Taibhse|talk]]) 11:28, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
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− | Woah, that's really a '''lot''' of discussion over this tiny comic. [[User:Nk22|Nk22]] ([[User talk:Nk22|talk]]) 19:06, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
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− | I'd love to see a good explanation of the optics at play and the differences between telescopes and magnifying lenses. E.g. from {{w|Focal length}}: ''In most photography and all telescopy, where the subject is essentially infinitely far away, longer focal length (lower optical power) leads to higher magnification and a narrower angle of view; conversely, shorter focal length or higher optical power is associated with a wider angle of view. On the other hand, in applications such as microscopy in which magnification is achieved by bringing the object close to the lens, a shorter focal length (higher optical power) leads to higher magnification because the subject can be brought closer to the center of projection.'' And the reference to "resolving distance" seems like a misinterpretation. For a good time, watch [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Identifiable-Images-of-Bystanders-Extracted-from-Corneal-Reflections-pone.0083325.s001.ogv Stepwise magnification by 6% per frame into a 39 megapixel image. In the final frame, at about 170x, an image of a bystander is seen reflected in the man's cornea.] [[User:Nealmcb|Nealmcb]] ([[User talk:Nealmcb|talk]]) 15:11, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
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− | :If you (or anyone else) know enough about this, it would be great if you would correct the misinterpretation and maybe add some details. The above could be linked to via wiki. Or it could be a trivia section, if it is too much in the main explanation. I do not know enough about this to make a good explanation. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:24, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
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− | ::The focal length doesn't fit to a telescope or microscope in the same way as it does to a single lense like a magnifying glass. The major difference is the difference of the focus. A microscope does focus on an object very close to you, a telescope is set to an infinite focus. And a simple lense just increases your angle of view. I will give a try on this even more complex physics here. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:34, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
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− | [[Media:The Astonomer.jpg|Statue in Canberra, Australia of an astronomer with magnifying glass]] {{unsigned|Multimotyl}}
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− | You're all forgotten how early astronomy was done. At the turn of the century, photographs were taken through the telescope, developed, and only later analyzed closely - ''with a magnifying glass'' - as part of [http://www.astro.virginia.edu/~rjp0i/museum/photography.html Astrophotography]! This allowed for careful tracking and analysis of the many stars that might be visible from just one frame. (It also allowed observation of the same area of the sky at different days, or even at different years, to see which stars were moving relative to others.) For more, look into [http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-women-who-mapped-the-universe-and-still-couldnt-get-any-respect-9287444/?no-ist The Women Who Mapped the Universe] [[User:Jorgbrown|Jorgbrown]] ([[User talk:Jorgbrown|talk]]) 20:08, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
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− | It seems like this explanation ought to consider that perhaps they are standing in a room painted black with white stars drawn on the ceiling (or perhaps in the dark projected/simulated like a planetarium) such that Beret Guy's use of the magnifying glass actually does bring him close enough to observe. Although this is unlikely, it seems possible. [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 00:13, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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