Editing Talk:2001: Clickbait-Corrected p-Value

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I thought this comic was about ''correcting'' for any p-hacking that aimed to increase the media presence (and thus the clickbait) of the study. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.94.10|172.68.94.10]] 17:32, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

The explanation for null hypothesis is correct semantically, it would be accepted if there was no OR negative improvement, however, this is usually stated more succinctly as "will not improve performance" or (in keeping with the language of the comic) "does not boost performance", since that has the same meaning without the unnecessary verbosity. ---- {{unsigned ip|162.158.186.42}}

I can't believe I clicked on this [[Special:Contributions/172.68.86.46|172.68.86.46]] 20:28, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

I've removed a paragraph which claimed that this was an instance of Bayes theorem. Despite some similarity in structure, it is not.  [[User:Winstonewert|Winstonewert]] ([[User talk:Winstonewert|talk]]) 01:39, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

I was honestly expecting a comic about (or at least referencing) {{w|2001: A Space Odyssey}}. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 07:41, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

If reseachers were to use this adjusted formula, it would make sensational results much harder to demonstrate as significant, and uninteresting results much easier.  Seems to me it’s a good adjustment for a lot of things.  I wonder about p-values, though ... seems to me a value that is at all borderline just means you don’t have enough data yet for the actual size of the effect you’re measuring, but I don’t know much about statistics.  [[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.130|172.68.54.130]] 02:08, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Ummm.  I use a Gecko engine* with "Block Advertisement" checked.  *(K-Meleon 76.0)  I can see the image from "xkcd Phone 2000" and "LeBron James and Stephen Curry", but NOT THIS PAGE.  Unless I uncheck "Block Advertisement".  Obviously this is to encourage clicking on things?  [[Special:Contributions/172.68.2.70|172.68.2.70]] 09:29, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

This could be an attempt to correct for the effects described in the infamous [http://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124 Iohannides paper]: 
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 In this framework, a research finding is less likely to be true when the studies conducted in a field are smaller[...] where there is greater flexibility in designs, [...] where there is greater financial and other interest and prejudice; and when more teams are involved in a scientific field in chase of statistical significance. Simulations show that for most study designs and settings, it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true.
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--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.192|162.158.90.192]] 23:04, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

'''Incomplete?'''

This comic is labeled as incomplete, but the explanation seems pretty thorough as it is. Any explanation can be cleaned up ad infinitum to suit people's liking, but this one seems pretty good as it is. Is the incomplete tag still warranted at this point?--[[User:Sensorfire|Sensorfire]] ([[User talk:Sensorfire|talk]]) 18:46, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:There were many edits recently because this comic is mentioned at the sitenotice on top here, if you now understand what a p-Value is, feel free to remove that incomplete tag. I personally prefer a more straight forward and shorter explanation. But that's only my opinion. When this comic is not labeled incomplete anymore I will put some else to that sitenotice. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:23, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
::If this wiki tracked pageviews, somebody could put forth a hypothesis of something measurable on the site, see how many clicks each hypothesis got, and produce a real clickbait-adjusted p-value for it.
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 This comic is labeled as incomplete, but the explanation seems pretty thorough as it is. Any explanation can be cleaned up ad infinitum to suit people's liking, but this one seems pretty good as it is. Is the incomplete tag still warranted at this point?--[[User:Sensorfire|Sensorfire]] ([[User talk:Sensorfire|talk]]) 18:46, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 :There were many edits recently because this comic is mentioned at the sitenotice on top here, if you now understand what a p-Value is, feel free to remove that incomplete tag. I personally prefer a more straight forward and shorter explanation. But that's only my opinion. When this comic is not labeled incomplete anymore I will put some else to that sitenotice. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:23, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
-::If this wiki tracked pageviews, somebody could put forth a hypothesis of something measurable on the site, see how many clicks each hypothesis got, and produce a real clickbait-adjusted p-value for it. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.107|162.158.79.107]] 02:52, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
+::If this wiki tracked pageviews, somebody could put forth a hypothesis of something measurable on the site, see how many clicks each hypothesis got, and produce a real clickbait-adjusted p-value for it.
-:::We don't explain clickbait here...--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:20, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
-Still incomplete because if you google for this "chocolate health" you will understand. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:20, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
-true -> so; will -> shall; if and only if -> if; hard -> touh [[User:Lysdexia|Lysdexia]] ([[User talk:Lysdexia|talk]]) 07:59, 25 July 2019 (UTC)