Editing Talk:2120: Brain Hemispheres

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_hemisphere#Hemisphere_lateralization
If the left side controls the top half of the body, wouldn't that mean it also controls the right half? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.248|108.162.241.248]] 20:04, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
: It is uncontroversial that many senses and motoric functions are swapped between the right and left side. The anatomy of the nerve swaps can also be shown. But it is still under discussion, why evolution led to this swap (source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contralateral_brain Contralateral brain] and the even better organized German version [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontralateralit%C3%A4t_des_Vorderhirns Kontralateralität des Vorderhirns]) Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.46|172.68.110.46]] 08:41, 7 March 2019 (UTC)


I don't think the sentence "all 3 claims are false" is accurate. I think the claim that the right side of your brain controls the left side of your body is accurate. It says so on the Wikipedia article mentioned and in several other sources. What the Wikipedia article disputes is whether or not "higher-level" functions are partitioned to one side of the brain. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.42.64|172.69.42.64]] 20:29, 6 March 2019 (UTC) Harrison
: With regard to the retina, the right half of the brain processes what the right half of each retina receives, and the left half processes what the left half of each retina receives (see e.g. [https://nba.uth.tmc.edu/neuroscience/m/s2/chapter15.html optic nerve]), but because our retina is behind the focal point of our lens so all the lightbeams cross and images hit the back of the eyeball upside-down and backwards, that means the halves of our brain process the opposite halves of what we see.  But it's the same side of our body!  I stopped learning neuroscience after we got to the optic nerve ;p [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.95|108.162.221.95]] 21:48, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
: You must've stopped in the middle of the lesson, because the optic nerves split so that both brain halves get a copy of each eye. Your own link points it out in the figure as the "Optic chiasm".--[[User:Henke37|Henke37]] ([[User talk:Henke37|talk]]) 13:09, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

:I think the "right side of your brain controls the left side of your body" is NOT accurate, it's just closer to truth than the reverse. Some parts of perception and motor control are divided that way, but unless you have corpus callosotomy the high-level control is centralized and/or distributed regardless the side. Would be hard to synchronize both hands if not. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 02:05, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Having survived an ischemic stroke on the left side of my brain, which temporarily paralyzed the right side of my body, this comic speaks to me like none other.
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 If the left side controls the top half of the body, wouldn't that mean it also controls the right half? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.248|108.162.241.248]] 20:04, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 : It is uncontroversial that many senses and motoric functions are swapped between the right and left side. The anatomy of the nerve swaps can also be shown. But it is still under discussion, why evolution led to this swap (source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contralateral_brain Contralateral brain] and the even better organized German version [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontralateralit%C3%A4t_des_Vorderhirns Kontralateralität des Vorderhirns]) Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.46|172.68.110.46]] 08:41, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
-: I'm referring exclusively to the hypothetical model posed by the comic; rather than the reality.
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 : With regard to the retina, the right half of the brain processes what the right half of each retina receives, and the left half processes what the left half of each retina receives (see e.g. [https://nba.uth.tmc.edu/neuroscience/m/s2/chapter15.html optic nerve]), but because our retina is behind the focal point of our lens so all the lightbeams cross and images hit the back of the eyeball upside-down and backwards, that means the halves of our brain process the opposite halves of what we see.  But it's the same side of our body!  I stopped learning neuroscience after we got to the optic nerve ;p [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.95|108.162.221.95]] 21:48, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 : You must've stopped in the middle of the lesson, because the optic nerves split so that both brain halves get a copy of each eye. Your own link points it out in the figure as the "Optic chiasm".--[[User:Henke37|Henke37]] ([[User talk:Henke37|talk]]) 13:09, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
-:: If you look closer, you can see how the left half of each eye (retina) goes only to the left half of the brain, and same for the right, even though both eyes do go to both sides.  The split is by what is seen, not which eye sees it, which specially maps to the left side or right side of the eyeball.  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.185|162.158.79.185]] 19:03, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 :I think the "right side of your brain controls the left side of your body" is NOT accurate, it's just closer to truth than the reverse. Some parts of perception and motor control are divided that way, but unless you have corpus callosotomy the high-level control is centralized and/or distributed regardless the side. Would be hard to synchronize both hands if not. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 02:05, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 Having survived an ischemic stroke on the left side of my brain, which temporarily paralyzed the right side of my body, this comic speaks to me like none other.
-Is it possible that the title text is a reference to the whole "magnetic north is actually south" thing? {{unsigned ip|162.158.78.208}}
-Completely rewrote the explanation. There are two key phrases that were removed with the following justifications:
-'''"left arm and left leg, and vice versa for the left half of the brain, and competing theories such as [https://arxiv.org/pdf/1003.1872.pdf these] [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02972358 two] attempt to explain why this is the case."
-'''
-Those are not competing theories. It is the abandonment of one old theory in favor of a one that is better supported with evidence! It's like saying "There are competing theories of what an atom is actually made out of. One says that they are the smallest indivisible part of all matter. Another says that they are like plum-puddings with with a positive charge particle studded with negative charge corpsucles. And the last theory of what an atom is is a core particle with positive charge, made of many many smaller parts, surrounded by an probability/statistical cloud of negative particles which can act as both particles and waves and cannot have their speed and location determined at the same time.
-... And if you think these are all "competing" and equally valid theories of what an atom is... I can not help you. Please... I don't know. Take a class or read a textbook or something. Good luck. May God have mercy on you.
-'''Similarly, many people incorrectly argue that different parts of the brain control logic and emotion, due to the importance of the [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028393211000285?via%3Dihub left] brain for language processing.
-'''
-Removed and replaced it with a better explanation. Not technically "incorrectly argue". There is basis for which the arguments are founded.
---[[User:Evilbob0|Evilbob0]] ([[User talk:Evilbob0|talk]]) 03:12, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
-The concern about the left leg being independent of the brain can be confirmed. Just scratch your left side, and watch your left leg kick.
-[[User:Keybounce|Keybounce]] ([[User talk:Keybounce|talk]]) 00:18, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
-https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/212:_Brain coincidence? [[User:I prefer qwerty|I prefer qwerty]] ([[User talk:I prefer qwerty|talk]]) 11:38, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
-:I think maybe. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 12:29, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
-== Conjoined twins analogous to "Disputed/Dual control" ==
-I don't have time to properly research now, but could some conjoined twins be a real world example of disputed/dual control on some parts of their bodies? I think I read that in some cases they have to cooperate to control a shared (3rd) leg or similar things? [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 22:14, 11 March 2019 (UTC)