Editing Talk:2367: Masks

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What is the mysterio reference? [[User:Donthaveusername|Donthaveusername]] <sup>([[User talk:Donthaveusername|talk]])</sup>
: Mysterio is one of Spiderman's recurrent villains. [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 18:57, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you [[User:Donthaveusername|Donthaveusername]] <sup>([[User talk:Donthaveusername|talk]])</sup>
: Mysterio could reference this: [https://goosebumps.fandom.com/wiki/Hocus-Pocus_Horror] Sebastian--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.200|162.158.94.200]] 12:43, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
:: That globe is clearly a reference to the Spiderman villian.  The Goosebumps character did not wear a mask as far as I can tell. [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 14:42, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
:It's Mysterio, the Spider-Man villain, who basically wears a fishbowl/crystal ball over his head, as shown in this graph. :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:21, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

How could Randall forget {{w|The Mask}}? Although I'm not sure where it fits on the scale. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 20:32, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
:I was desperately missing an Opera Phantom reference. (Apparently made as a 'skewed partial' mask because the original concept was impossible to ''opera''te in.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.216|162.158.154.216]] 22:45, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
:I would assume {{w|The Mask}} protects against infection quite well, considering it protects even against bullets and explosives. It may not prevent spreading the virus to others, though. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 01:18, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
:: It would protect against or foster any effect or aspect of the virus exactly as much as the wearer wanted it to. It can bend or rewrite reality or unreality in any way, at a whim. The only weakness to the Mask is the wearer du jour, so it would utterly, entirely and completely depend upon who's wearing it. So, as to where it fits on the scale - it doesn't (?) - [[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 15:29, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
:Depends. The mask when off/real life no-magic replica, is essentially identical to the Skincare one with open eye and mouth holes, except more substantial, being made of wood, so it would be there. Worn, with the magical transformation, there's zero coverage so it would be up with Zorro/Lone Ranger/Batman. Or, alternatively, you'd now be the embodiment of Loki, a god, so probably immune to viruses and thus below Mysterio. :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:21, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

With Batman/Spiderman/Mysterio on the list, wouldn't the Scarecrow mask be that of the Batman Villain?   [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.56|162.158.255.56]]
: The appearance of the scarecrow mask in the comic is similar to some incarnations of the Scarecrow in the various Batman comics.  In that case, it would be very effective as Dr. Crane (the man behind the mask) uses psychoactive air-borne chemicals and the mask actually hides very effective filters. That mask sure does not look like Ray Bolger's makeup from the Wizard of Oz. [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 14:42, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

It's considered ''possible'' that the virus could be transmitted through the eyes, e.g. by touching a contaminated surface and then rubbing one's eyes.  This hasn't been confirmed; it is at most a minor route.  Should we mention this when noting the lack of protection offered by e.g. the Lone Ranger / Zorro mask? [[User:BunsenH|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH|talk]]) 03:47, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
:Early in the pandemic - like May/June 2020 - I saw an article where some doctor had been vigilant protecting his nose and mouth, washing hands frequently as a doctor, who swore him contracting the virus was proof that you can contract it through the eyes, that he did. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:21, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

What about iron man? <span> — [[User:Sqrt-1|The <b>𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">stalk</span>]]</sup></span> 04:06, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
: All the incarnations of the various Iron Man armours, except perhaps for the first one, contain independent air supplies, which allows the operator to survive underwater and at very high altitude, where people usually can not breathe. Therefore, the Iron Man mask should appear as even more effective than Mysterio's one.  [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 14:47, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Spiderman's mask is extremely porous, how would it be that effective? [[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] ([[User talk:SDSpivey|talk]]) 04:58, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Spiderman's mask would act as a nebulizer, making virus transmission far worse.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.146.202|162.158.146.202]] 13:09, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
: I would expect that Spiderman's mask would be about as effective as a regular cloth mask. [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 14:42, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Various iterations of Zorro have different masks. Sometimes they are as shown in this comic, a fabric strip with eye holes tied around the head, but arguably more common is a scarf with eye holes that covers the entire upper head and is tied in the back.  --[[User:John from Arlington|John from Arlington]] ([[User talk:John from Arlington|talk]]) 13:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
: Covering the top of the head still would not reduce the transmission of an airborne virus. [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 14:42, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
:: Which is why I was always skeptical of [https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/17/behold-tube-tube-ppe-headshield-designed-getting-public-transport-12862906/ this thing]. And also with so many people wearing visors (e.g. shop-assistants) where they're worn pretty much just as a (far out) eye-shield but plenty of air both towards and away from their mouth and nose.
:: (And far too many people, if they aren't wearing masks as chin-straps in a 'mask-required' context, think they're mouth-masks and hang them beneath their noses as if nostrils don't matter.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.167|162.158.154.167]] 23:01, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

:::It should cover the nose, but even covering just the mouth would be of some help, because you don't cough out your nose. The mask would disrupt the airflow when the wearer coughs, so that the virus does not get to travel the 2 metres to the next person before falling below that person's face height. Spider-Man's mask might do the same, but I doubt it; if the fabric was dense enough, he'd suffocate. Of course, that is only useful when the wearer has contracted the virus but has not developed the full-blown Covid.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.46|162.158.38.46]] 19:49, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


''Star Wars'' should be italicized. [[User:PvOberstein|PvOberstein]] ([[User talk:PvOberstein|talk]]) 18:40, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

;What are HEPA filters made of
I've been told that HEPA filters are very similar to the filters in consumer vacuum cleaner bag accessory assemblies, and also similar to the N95 filters sold for masks. What are those filters made of? How are they made? Can I make them at home? Can I make something similar at home? Thanks in advance. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.132.201|172.68.132.201]] 03:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
: This isn't really relevant to the discussion.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.29|162.158.107.29]] 04:40, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Has [[Batman]] been mentioned so many times that he needs his own category? See [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?search=batman&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&fulltext=1 this search].  --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Why is Spider-Man listed as SpiderMan in the explanation? There is nothing to suggest that the M should be capitalized. Shouldn't we be using Spiderman or SPIDERMAN? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.170.142|172.69.170.142]] 14:24, 5 October 2020‎
:We use "SpiderMan" in the explanation only when we're directly quoting the comic, with the error noted.  Otherwise in the explanation, we use the correct spelling.  I don't know why people are getting it wrong in the discussion here. :-)
:We don't yet have the "[sic]" note in the transcript, but probably should..? [[User:BunsenH|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH|talk]]) 17:10, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

I live in the village where Guy Fawkes grew up, and our local pub is named after him. The staff wear masks but, incredibly disappointingly, <i>not</i> "Guy Fawkes masks". Properly missed a trick there.[[User:Yorkshire Pudding|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding|talk]]) 14:48, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
:If I was in charge or at least connected, I'd design some Guy Fawkes masks to be able to accept the mouth/nose filters some cloth masks use. :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:54, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

The explanation talks about Guy Fawkes being designed for the V For Vendetta comic, but didn't that all come from a REAL guy REALLY using that mask/imagery? As depicted in the V movie? I won't update it because I'm no expert, but I'm fairly sure... [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:54, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
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	:: (And far too many people, if they aren't wearing masks as chin-straps in a 'mask-required' context, think they're mouth-masks and hang them beneath their noses as if nostrils don't matter.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.167\|162.158.154.167]] 23:01, 3 October 2020 (UTC)		:: (And far too many people, if they aren't wearing masks as chin-straps in a 'mask-required' context, think they're mouth-masks and hang them beneath their noses as if nostrils don't matter.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.167\|162.158.154.167]] 23:01, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

−	:::It should ~~of course~~ cover the nose, but even covering just the mouth would be of some ~~use. You~~ don't cough out your nose. The mask would disrupt the airflow when the wearer coughs, so that the virus does not get to travel the 2 metres to the next person before falling below that person's face height. ~~(Cough expel droplets, droplets contain virus, droplets have weight.)~~ Spider-Man's mask might do the same, but I doubt it; if the fabric was dense enough, he'd suffocate. Of course, that is only useful when the wearer has contracted the virus but has not developed the full-blown ~~Covid. If it's just a cold, the mask does nothing about~~ Covid. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.46\|162.158.38.46]] 19:54, 20 October 2020 (UTC)	+	:::It should cover the nose, but even covering just the mouth would be of some help, because you don't cough out your nose. The mask would disrupt the airflow when the wearer coughs, so that the virus does not get to travel the 2 metres to the next person before falling below that person's face height. Spider-Man's mask might do the same, but I doubt it; if the fabric was dense enough, he'd suffocate. Of course, that is only useful when the wearer has contracted the virus but has not developed the full-blown Covid.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.46\|162.158.38.46]] 19:49, 20 October 2020 (UTC)