Editing Talk:2786: UFO Evidence

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This must be about https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/lawmakers-react-to-whistleblowers-ufo-claims/ [[Special:Contributions/172.69.22.152|172.69.22.152]] 18:09, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

For reference: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/04/cats-butthole-cut-vfx-editor [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.145|172.69.34.145]] 18:24, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

That Wikipedia article doesn't say that Cats is the worst film ever, just that it's one of them; one of the reviewers said it could be the worst film of the decade. It's probably near the top of worst films by a major studio, but it can't possibly be as bad as Ed Wood's films. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 19:34, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

This was my reaction to COVID conspiracy theories as well. If anything about COVID was set up in advance in some massive poisoning scheme, it wouldn't be secret for long, and serious evidence would have spread very fast. That is because developing and spreading such a secret biological weapon requires so many people to cooperate for so long that the chance of an accidental or intentional leak approaches 1. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.182.47|172.71.182.47]] 21:23, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

: similarly 9/11 theories?

: This is my view on all the anti-science theories, including those about the Covid vaccine. HOW MANY people would have to collaborate on such a secret? How many people around the world worked hard to come up with a vaccine? Thousands? Maybe even a million? And to me, science is the search for truth, for facts. These are people devoted to truth, to me they seem the LEAST likely people to be dishonest. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:10, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
::That is the reason why I believe that significant historical events occurred in reality, and conversely that conspiracy theories are false. The reasoning being that faking or covering up something is equal or harder to pull off than actually doing it. It's like trying to offer "proof" that World War II was faked. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|talk]]) 01:50, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

The explanation says "an entire afternoon" but the comic says "a whole day". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.114|162.158.155.114]] 23:43, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

We might like to think that scientists would drop everything to investigate 'compelling evidence' of extra-terrestrial life, but they might not actually be allowed to, particularly in the US, where 'Proposed Studies on the Implications of Peaceful Space Activities for Human Affairs', often referred to as "the Brookings Report", is I believe still part of official policy. This was a 1960 report commissioned by NASA, created by the Brookings Institution in collaboration with NASA's Committee on Long-Range Studies, and submitted to the House Committee on Science and Astronautics of the United States House of Representatives in the 87th United States Congress on April 18, 1961. The report looks into historical instances of human cultures being destroyed by contact with a 'more advanced' culture, and recommended that it is in the public interest that any and all evidence of alien life be actively suppressed, in order to prevent the possible destabilisation and destruction of human society.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.136|172.70.85.136]] 04:52, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
:Given how willing provable kooks and nuts are to raise their heads above the parapet, I'm not sure (especially these days, with so many online opportunities, outwith the control of at least the US government and possibly any other) that any credible evidence is going to very quickly escape the ægis of the above ''recommendation''. Given the number of things that aren't true that they seem unable or unwilling to debunk, despite them being extremely relevent to the stability of the country, we should by now be drowning in copious WOW signals, undismissable photos of obvious alien craft or even yer actual selfies with yer actual LGMs...
:The authorities just aren't that good at this sort of thing, and can't install any form of covering-up Groupthink. (Some regimes might, but it's hard to tell how much they really have made people think as they should, or just talk as if they think as they should on pain of pain... But there remain voices in those wildernesses, too.) And the biggest draw for a scientist (which is why some people might go off the rails, with fringe theories that have no hint of being justified, ignoring clear evidence that they aren't) is the opportunity to overturn current thinking and making their name. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.88|172.70.91.88]] 08:44, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

I thought UAP stood for Unidentified Areal Phenomenon, not Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon.  [[Special:Contributions/127.0.0.1|Help, I'm trapped in a factory factory]] 16:15, 8 June (UTC)
: It did, but sometime recently most agencies seem to be defining UAP with "Anomalous" now.  The change surprised me, and I don't know the reasoning behind it.  See {{w|Unidentified_flying_object#Terminology}} --[[User:Orion205|Orion205]] ([[User talk:Orion205|talk]]) 17:52, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
:: Not all things [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Mirages_marins.jpg seen in the sky] are actually ''in'' the sky, so not technically aerial. And things seen from aircraft could easily be misinterpretations of ground 'objects'(/reflections from water/whatever), so it might be best to swerve the assumption.
:: Also, I wouldn't call the Moon (a surprisingly common 'sighting') or Venus/etc as aerial (elevated, perhaps, but far above the atmosphere so takes some special pleading). But maybe I'm alone in that. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.97|141.101.98.97]] 01:16, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
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 That Wikipedia article doesn't say that Cats is the worst film ever, just that it's one of them; one of the reviewers said it could be the worst film of the decade. It's probably near the top of worst films by a major studio, but it can't possibly be as bad as Ed Wood's films. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 19:34, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
-I thought I'd heard that the cat-butts were printed on the costumes & that CGI was used to remove them from recordings; even assuming the prints were painted over, the remaining evidence of them on costumes should have been enough to confirm if they were ever present. I'd not heard the idea that the cat-butts were ''inserted'' AND removed via CGI, before. That seems more unlikely, to me. Accurate butts on a costume wouldn't really surprise me at all. Spending money to create them seems like a stretch.
-[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 14:01, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 This was my reaction to COVID conspiracy theories as well. If anything about COVID was set up in advance in some massive poisoning scheme, it wouldn't be secret for long, and serious evidence would have spread very fast. That is because developing and spreading such a secret biological weapon requires so many people to cooperate for so long that the chance of an accidental or intentional leak approaches 1. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.182.47|172.71.182.47]] 21:23, 7 June 2023 (UTC)