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==The link to buy ad space is BROKEN==
 
You guys might be able to get more advertisers if the link to buy ad space wasn't broken.
 
 
: Agreed. The [[wikipedia:Project Wonderful|Project Wonderful]] ad network shutdown in 2018. Three years later, this page still points there. Admins, please update with details about the new advertising scheme and what guardrails, if any, are in place to insure ads are useful and acceptable to the community here. Thanks! [[User:Mwarren|Mwarren]] ([[User talk:Mwarren|talk]]) 14:35, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 
 
 
==Whitelisting==
 
==Whitelisting==
 
I did this WHITE HAT listing, and I just see this picture at the left side: [http://www.projectwonderful.com/img/uploads/pics/91967-1378268302.png Your Ad...] But do I know if "www.projectwonderful.com" is just Black HAT? I do whitelist this page (expainxkcd), not more. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 
I did this WHITE HAT listing, and I just see this picture at the left side: [http://www.projectwonderful.com/img/uploads/pics/91967-1378268302.png Your Ad...] But do I know if "www.projectwonderful.com" is just Black HAT? I do whitelist this page (expainxkcd), not more. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
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We should probably explain the Lunarpages ad, because an awful lot of our users really hate ads. Lunarpages is our new host, and they offered to give us dedicated scalable server space with unlimited bandwidth for free in return for a .jpg banner ad on our sidebar. That's a pretty big deal, because it shaves off about $700 of yearly fees, plus potentially unlimited overage charges with their standard bandwidth limit. If comic number [[1190]] had happened and we were on that bandwidth cap, we would have had to fork out up to $600 per month, which would make this wiki very costly to maintain indeed. By going with this ad deal, we can eliminate all unpredictable costs, allowing us to use our Project Wonderful ad money to pay for webpage caching/CDN services and buy ad space on other websites to spread the joy. With no ads, all of the above would put a ~$2000-3000 dent in our pockets per year. With ads earning at their current rate, we can very comfortably pursue things like our current dedicated hosting or cloudflare to make the site faster without actually having to pay out our own money or beg users for donations. Our ads are small in terms of file size, and they only take up space in the sidebar that Mediawiki would have otherwise left blank. That's not much to pay for substantially faster server hardware and essentially free advertising. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 16:50, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 
We should probably explain the Lunarpages ad, because an awful lot of our users really hate ads. Lunarpages is our new host, and they offered to give us dedicated scalable server space with unlimited bandwidth for free in return for a .jpg banner ad on our sidebar. That's a pretty big deal, because it shaves off about $700 of yearly fees, plus potentially unlimited overage charges with their standard bandwidth limit. If comic number [[1190]] had happened and we were on that bandwidth cap, we would have had to fork out up to $600 per month, which would make this wiki very costly to maintain indeed. By going with this ad deal, we can eliminate all unpredictable costs, allowing us to use our Project Wonderful ad money to pay for webpage caching/CDN services and buy ad space on other websites to spread the joy. With no ads, all of the above would put a ~$2000-3000 dent in our pockets per year. With ads earning at their current rate, we can very comfortably pursue things like our current dedicated hosting or cloudflare to make the site faster without actually having to pay out our own money or beg users for donations. Our ads are small in terms of file size, and they only take up space in the sidebar that Mediawiki would have otherwise left blank. That's not much to pay for substantially faster server hardware and essentially free advertising. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 16:50, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 
: Updated this a bit. --[[User:Jeff|<b><font color="orange">Jeff</font></b>]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 02:09, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 
: Updated this a bit. --[[User:Jeff|<b><font color="orange">Jeff</font></b>]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 02:09, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
:: We at Trusted Hosting could offer a similar solution without requiring exclusive access to that area of the sidebar. We can do this because everything about our setup is optimised from mail-server to nginx instance by industry certified experts. Perhaps a tendering process would make sense. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.103|162.158.158.103]] 21:11, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 
  
 
== Donations ==
 
== Donations ==
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:The lunarpages is a static image that uses zero javascript. The ad just above that is loaded with a little bit of javascript by an ad provider called Project Wonderful, and their code seems to not be rendering correctly on some builds of firefox. The noscript message is also static text, which the ad is supposed to render over and becomes visible when the ad fails to load. I'll report this as a bug and see what I can do about it. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 05:22, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 
:The lunarpages is a static image that uses zero javascript. The ad just above that is loaded with a little bit of javascript by an ad provider called Project Wonderful, and their code seems to not be rendering correctly on some builds of firefox. The noscript message is also static text, which the ad is supposed to render over and becomes visible when the ad fails to load. I'll report this as a bug and see what I can do about it. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 05:22, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 
::Firefox issue is still ongoing. It seems to have a non-js fallback of some sort which doesn't work. On the plus side, the banner looked interesting enough to want to enable JS to click it (which was a strange experience). [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.191|108.162.246.191]] 20:17, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 
::Firefox issue is still ongoing. It seems to have a non-js fallback of some sort which doesn't work. On the plus side, the banner looked interesting enough to want to enable JS to click it (which was a strange experience). [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.191|108.162.246.191]] 20:17, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
:::A "strange experience" is an error message meaningless like "it doesn't work". NoScript is a sophisticated AddOn to Firefox and I recommend this only for advanced users. Broken or blocked links inside a page can always cause strange looking pages, mostly when a style sheet is missing because it's not loaded from a blocked part. This is a little bit like: Don't try it at home unless you really know what you are doing. But clicking "Allow all this page" in the preferences, waiting for the reload, checking again if there is something more to allow which wasn't visible before, finally it has to work. If not, YOUR NoScript is broken and reinstalling may still not work because there is too much chaos left at your installation folders. But that's a ticket for the NoScript people, this site works fine (for me with that AddOn). --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:52, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 
 
 
I'm also getting a message in the sidebar that I'm using noscript ("It seems you are using noscript, which is stopping our project wonderful ads from working."), when I'm not intentionally using any kind of ad-blocker. I am using Chrome, so assuming the previous comment about how Flashblock is built into Chrome is correct, this could be a Flashblock issue. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.225|162.158.62.225]] 17:30, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 
I'm also getting a message in the sidebar that I'm using noscript ("It seems you are using noscript, which is stopping our project wonderful ads from working."), when I'm not intentionally using any kind of ad-blocker. I am using Chrome, so assuming the previous comment about how Flashblock is built into Chrome is correct, this could be a Flashblock issue. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.225|162.158.62.225]] 17:30, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 
I'm also getting the message in the sidebar that I'm using noscript, but I'm not. I am using Privacy Badger in an older Firefox -- it triggers Red on staticxx.facebook.com and www.projectwonderful.com , and Yellow on several other sites, totaling 10 trackers.
 
 
This is still an issue, I *am* using noscript but have whitelisted this site and project wonderful, and refreshed the page. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.88.116|162.158.88.116]] 09:26, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 
  
 
== Clarification on advertising rates ==
 
== Clarification on advertising rates ==
 
Regarding the bid amounts on the [https://www.projectwonderful.com/advertisehere.php?id=70571 project wonderful page], is the number the amount per day? For example, the graph at the moment shows a bidding amount that varies between about $4 to $9. Does that mean the earnings of this site are about $4 to $9 per day? [[User:Nev|Nev]] ([[User talk:Nev|talk]]) 11:22, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 
Regarding the bid amounts on the [https://www.projectwonderful.com/advertisehere.php?id=70571 project wonderful page], is the number the amount per day? For example, the graph at the moment shows a bidding amount that varies between about $4 to $9. Does that mean the earnings of this site are about $4 to $9 per day? [[User:Nev|Nev]] ([[User talk:Nev|talk]]) 11:22, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:The prices are per day, yes. There are four different regions that project wonderful lets people bid on, US, Europe, Canada and the rest of the world. Bids for the US tend to be high, and the starting price is also slightly higher. Earnings can vary day on day as advertisers don't always want to advertise on Project Wonderful. If we're looking at averages, income from the last few months has been about $4 a day. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 21:14, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:The prices are per day, yes. There are four different regions that project wonderful lets people bid on, US, Europe, Canada and the rest of the world. Bids for the US tend to be high, and the starting price is also slightly higher. Earnings can vary day on day as advertisers don't always want to advertise on Project Wonderful. If we're looking at averages, income from the last few months has been about $4 a day. '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 21:14, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 
== Hacking themed/related sites not encouraging damaging activity ==
 
 
I am considering taking out an advert for my hacking themed site, Haaksploits, which I hope to have up and running in a MVP state within a month. The focus is on using computers in new and exciting ways, which includes some focus on traditional penetration testing techniques such as cross-site scripting, password brute forcing, port scanning and SQL injection -- which of course do have legitimate commercial outlets; far more, indeed, than ever was the case previously --, as well as information on security and general data-gathering, and basic tutorials on things like Linux, C++ and similar. Some reference to Mr Robot may also exist here and there :op. To this end would it be possible to get further definition on what would be considered an 'exploit' etc or if there may be some leeway on this, if the site can be proven to be trustworthy and responsible in its disclosures? To be clear there will be nothing mentioned on the site that doesn't a) have a legitimate use b) encourages illegal activity.
 
 
With these things in mind, would the site likely be accepted as valid, would the name potentially need to be changed, or would there be any other stipulations, including removal of some of the previously outlined content (perhaps 'walling some of it off' with a different site name and alternative branding)?  At this stage of development a full rebrand wouldn't be *too* difficult, and the main pain points of re-registering the SSL with the domain name might even fix some minor issues I've been having with the cert chain.
 
 
I am very keen to have an advert on this site as it seems potentially close to the perfect audience I want once my website is properly up and running, so any clarification on this would be very welcome.
 
 
If the site goes on to generate significant revenue I would also be more than willing to increase the price paid for the ad above the ticket price, as I believe in giving back to the community and have got a lot of enjoyment from this resource.
 
 
While the site is live on a production server, I don't want to link directly to it, as it is not in a complete state at present, and the majority of content requires further infrastructure work to implement. However, I would be willing to provide a sample if it will help getting an advertisement on this site accepted. [[User:Peterdcarter|Peterdcarter]] ([[User talk:Peterdcarter|talk]])
 
 
 
Although the "Advertise Here" page says ads will only appear on the sidebar, ads are appearing in the middle of explanations. This is incredibly disruptive. Please stop. [[User:Unpopular Opinions|Unpopular Opinions]] ([[User talk:Unpopular Opinions|talk]]) 17:29, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 
 
== Ads in the middle of explanations + sexual content ==
 
 
This page says that you only sell ads for the side bar, but I get a very large number of ads in the middle of the text, interrupting the explanation. There are also sexually explicit ads quite regularly... See https://ibb.co/wsrGm99 https://ibb.co/pJTzC7K https://ibb.co/Vqkqy2w https://ibb.co/qM8W4wT https://ibb.co/bzYDxmV
 
Please do something about it…
 
[[User:Fractal|Fractal]] ([[User talk:Fractal|talk]]) 07:18, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 
:I'm wondering about this as well. I haven't seen any sexual content, but there are definitely multiple ads in explanations, instead of just the 160x600 "skyscraper" ads you claim to exclusively sell. [[User:Bischoff|Bischoff]] ([[User talk:Bischoff|talk]]) 10:58, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 

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