Talk:2919: Sitting in a Tree

Could posting refer to attending one's post? 162.158.146.163 23:29, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Meh, they're just dropping burning pine cones on the wargs. BunsenH (talk) 04:06, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I hope I did this right, seeing as this was my first ever edit! Name of User (talk) 04:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Did Randall mean e-filing as in submitting your tax return on the web, and how is that more alarming than ironing sitting on a branch? Or is there some other meaning to efiling? 172.68.243.77 06:46, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Could be that they're sitting in a data tree, selectively traversing it to find a fraudulent subset of transactional records to 'declare'... 141.101.99.74 10:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

To me it seems "efiling" could be supporting/enacting efilism? Definitely more disturbing. 172.70.42.235 (talk) 12:38, 13 April 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

I assumed it was a reference to the tax filing deadline in the USA. 162.158.154.207 14:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't think "efiling" (electronically filing tax returns) should be considered any more alarming than "banking". --172.70.131.87 20:55, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Yeah - I can't see why banking, e-filing, or posting while in a tree would really be of any concern, in and of themselves. You might have some concern over the security of your connection, particularly if you're using a random wifi hotspot to do it, but that doesn't really have anything to do with the tree per se.172.70.163.30 09:04, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

When dealing with my bank, I still do prefer to go to my nearest branch... 172.69.43.165 12:09, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Chapeau. :o) (Preferably a hard hat.)172.71.178.33 08:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

So, "whaling" can mean hitting (usually in the form "whaling on"), but "whaling" also means spending a lot of money, such as when gambling or in a video game. 172.71.222.210 (talk) 11:05, 13 April 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Personally, I just automatically thought they would be actually hunting marine mammals!^{[cetacean needed]} 172.69.194.204 11:30, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Absolutely - in the hierarchy "what words mean", I'd say "what the word literally means" has a good argument for being at the top. "Whaling" also means "hitting", and even then, only phrasally: it's surely only ever "whaling on + object". "Whaling", in isolation, is hunting whales.Yorkshire Pudding (talk) 11:54, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I believe it only applies to Ishmael and Queequeg, I guess. They're quite homosexual. 108.162.241.170 20:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Do "perish/carriage" actually rhyme in (perhaps) the Bostonian accent? I'm drawn back to the state of the Edmund Fitzgerald lyrical rhyming scheme. It might work better using something like "pillage/carriage", with only the vowel-problem. At which point I could imagine it sort of working in a (bad) Kiwi or Africaans 'iccint'. 172.69.195.121 11:42, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I think they come quite close in a "general" North American accent. The "pairish" and "cairidge" sounds, stretched out a little to fit the tune, sit well enough together.Yorkshire Pudding (talk) 11:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I came here looking for explanations of "efiling", and I have to say "efilism", which I'd never heard of before, certainly sounds more in keeping with that frame than "e-filing", which just sounds tedious, even if the first result DuckDuckGo offers me is for something called SARS which seems an unfortunate name. - IMSoP (talk) 13:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

How do Cueball and Megan iron without a power cord? --1234231587678 (talk) 03:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Presumably they’re using Apple iPhones with handles attached so they can be safely handled even though they get hot enough to iron clothes. 172.70.210.218 05:52, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

They could be using a flat iron, which is simply a solid piece of metal that is heated over a fire before use. (It does look like they may be using steam irons, though.) 172.69.6.7 14:20, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

See also "box irons". You put hot embers (or fire-heated stones, or whatever is handy or the 'box' is best designed for) into them as the 'heat powerpack'. It'll cool, much like the 'solid iron' iron, but then you empty it and put another 'heat battery' in that you've had waiting in the actual fire. May be trickier than just sitting the 'solid state' version on/over the fire every now and then, but removes a lot of the enforced pause between subsequent applications if you need more than one 'heatings-worth' of iron, per laundry job.

Obviously, for any actual super-arborial applicationem caloris, one would expect something like a bucket (or heat-safe basket) on a rope, to facilitate some ground-based assistance (beyond the fairly trivial initial porting of the ironing board up there, which they relatively easily do themselves... 172.71.242.70 19:04, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

"cetacean needed" is absolutely beautiful, well done!108.162.241.171 15:06, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. A+ handiwork. Laser813 (talk) 14:35, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Feels like a worthy spiritual successor to one of my favorites, Strip Games. We need more charts about alternative children's activities. Phil Srobeighn (talk) 10:56, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Cueball and Megan, sitting in a tree, F- wait no W-O-R-K-I-N-G R-U-N-N-I-N-G W-A-L-K-I-N-G C-A-L-L-I-N-G D-R-A-W-I-N-G 172.70.127.58 16:17, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Were you about to swear?!? -- Z1mp0st0rz (talk) 19:37, 15 April 2024 (UTC) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

U-N-D-O-I-N-G. ConscriptGlossary (talk) 09:23, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

[Ineffable!] RadiantRainwing (talk) 17:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Blood, fire, DEATH!!!! YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES ANARCHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Z1mp0st0rz (talk) 19:37, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

I was surprised when I moved to the US to find out that they also use the word e-file for submitting taxes online. In Canada, it's efile without a hyphen. It also seems that the IRS dosen't send you a confirmation that it was correctly submitted. Brycemw (talk) 19:38, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't even know what they call it, over here in the UK. Most people (certainly most people like me) do not have to personally submit annual paperwork. PAYE gets dealt with as an intrinsic part of your wages. VAT is included in the price-tags of store items (a business-sales place may quote ex-VAT prices as well, but your £499.99 pricetag for some home-electrical item typically doesn't need any further form of Sales Taxes adding to it before you can take it away).

Big tax-relevent things (selling a house, anything else that might invoke Capital Gains Tax) are generally rare enough and the estate agent/solicitors involved should get you through the one-off declarations without fuss. Unless you're running your own business or have some other kind of self-earned income (e.g. personal share-trading portfolio), there's not the need for the whole industry of "Personal tax declarations" cropping up every year.

Taxes still get collected, of course, and doubtless there's room for making adjustments (need expensive boots particularly for work? - you can claim back some of this necessary expense), but asking every person to do as much work as (from popular media) it looks like everyone from Homer Simpson to Jack Bauer needs to spend a frantic few weeks every year to find time to do (or set aside enough regular time to keep ahead of that so that it isn't quite so onerous) just seems odd to me, who has never had to do anything like this over several decades in various jobs and types of employment. 172.69.194.36 13:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

I definitely have to agree with you there. With my dad being an accountant, I certainly know a lot of situations where you'd need to do special things with your taxes but the vast majority of people work standard jobs that report their income to the government anyway. Even in the case of personal stock trading or special types of accounts like retirement accounts, the broker or bank still has to report that information to the government. My tax return this year was complicated due to moving countries but other than the one year that I did some remote contracting work for a US company, my Canadian tax returns have been opening the tax software, logging into CRA (Canadian Revenue Agency), downloading all of the data from there, then checking that it's correct. I guess I made one decision of whether or not to use my deduction from contributing to an RRSP but overall there's no reason that it has to be that much work.

There are definitely a lot more complicated interactions between things in the US so it's not quite so simple. My understanding is that the main reason why it's so much work is that the companies that make the tax software lobby the government to ensure that it doesn't change. The current system requires you to buy a new copy of the software every year (or pay an accountant) which obviously makes them a ton of money. Brycemw (talk) 15:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm gonna miss "PAIR OF BOTS SITTING IN A TREE E-D-I-T-I-N-G - ♫First come comments, ♫Then these made neat, ♫But ONLY when it's accurate, then should you the tag delete!♫" when this page is "complete." May be a bit too Meta, but should we consider adding it to a "Trivia" section of the page? 162.158.154.99 16:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Go for it! Laser813 (talk) 17:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

You've preserved it for posterity here. 172.68.210.117 (talk) 21:57, 19 April 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Cueball and Megan, sitting in a tree, B-R-A-K-I-N-G 172.70.131.63 18:55, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

I read this as B-A-R-K-I-N-G. Fits more in the alarming section. Tcf (talk) 12:03, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Why? A healthy tree is almost continually barking! :P 172.70.162.101 15:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Would it be possible to melt a human body (instead of burning it)? 108.162.246.57 (talk) 21:44, 17 October 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Define 'melt'. The body is a mixture of various solids and liquids (and, even initially, gases), such that raising the overall temperature enough to turn all the definite solids (bones, teeth) to liquid will have already boiled off most (if not all) of the started-as-liquid mass. And some of the 'solid'-to-start-with bits (flesh, in all its forms, which is basically pockets of liquid only given structure due to in 'bubbles' of cell-walls and microstructures within/between the 'soap bubble' stuff that those are) will significantly boil off, too, possibly, give or take the carbonisation (more solidifying!) of going past the point of overcooking it. Can it be said to have melted if much of the mass is evapourated (if not outright burnt) before you get to the point of melting the last remnants of anything that was hard enough to be consided solid. Which probably just has spontaneously oxidised, anyway?

Melting in the apparent manner of the Wicked Witch Of The West or (reversibly) Alex Mack/T1000 is entirely possible with application of enough of the right acid/alkili in the right way ('acid-bath murder' or water cremation which chemically liquifies (still with heat, either applied or exothermically as part of the process), but you might consider that as not so much melting as merely liquefaction, and sufficiently thorough passage through an industrial blender might produce a (gritty) similar result, for all intents and purposes.

...noting that I've never tried any of the above, personally, not even with a terribly misguided and excessive attempt to cook a Sunday lunch. But the human body isn't at all one substance, and the overwhelming amount of what substances it is composed of don't need to be "thermally melted" in the first place, so it'd be easier to go the other way and conclusively make it all solid through hastily-applied cryogenics. Or just vapourise it all entirely, with no regard for halting at the liquid phase of everything. 172.69.194.150 04:36, 18 October 2024 (UTC)