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| title = Increased Risk | | title = Increased Risk | ||
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− | | titletext = You may point out that strictly speaking, you can use that statement to prove that all risks are | + | | titletext = You may point out that strictly speaking, you can use that statement to prove that all risks are tiny--to which I reply HOLY SHIT WATCH OUT FOR THAT DOG! |
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==Explanation== | ==Explanation== | ||
− | The panel | + | {{incomplete}} |
− | + | The panel satirises the common misunderstanding of the concept of percentage. Quoting a percentage figure, without mentioning the base which this ratio acts on is meaningless (outside of arithmetic for arithmetic's sake). Most everyday communication however, succumbs to such incompleteness. In the aftermath of this ambiguity, people tend to conflate relative and absolute changes. | |
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− | + | If the probability of a shark attack at the North beach is 0.000001% (one in a million), then the probability of shark attack at the South beach is still 0.0000012% (1.2 in a million). The difference between these values is not enough to normally justify choosing one beach over the other, even though a "20% greater" chance sounds significant when stated out of this larger context. | |
− | + | [[Cueball]] parodies the concern by noting that by going to a beach three times instead of two, their chances of attack by dogs with handguns in their mouths (a ludicrous and unrealistic scenario) increases by 50%, which is simply on the basis that they will have three trips in which to be attacked rather than 2 (a 50% increase in the opportunities). If the chance of the dog attack is 0.000000001% (one in a billion) on each visit to the beach, then the chance of attack over two visits is 0.000000002% whereas in three visits it becomes 0.000000003%. This does not change the overall improbability of there ever being a dog swimming with a gun in its mouth. | |
− | This also | + | [[Beret Guy]] further misunderstands Cueball's probability, believing that - since they haven't been attacked in their first two trips, the chance of attack by dogs with handguns is higher on their third outing. This is also common misunderstanding on statistics: While the overall probability of attack in three trips might be 0.000000003%, it doesn't change the fact that in each individual trip, the probability is 0.000000001%; if they managed to avoid being attacked in their first two trips, these trips no longer factor into the probability equation of the third trip. The fault in the logic involves the lack of dependency of the events between successive visits, and is best illustrated by coin flips: if one flips a (fair, neutral) coin 10 times in a row, no matter the result of each previous flip is, the odds of getting heads on the next coin flip remains 50%. In other words, past experience does not impact subsequent flips (and specifically the probability of the results). By the same logic, the odds of getting attacked by dogs with handguns the same on the third trip than it had been on each of the first two trips to the beach. The "tripled" odds applied to the overall group of three trips; however now we have further information that the first two trips were uneventful, and take an independant look at the third trip. |
− | The | + | The title text discusses the argument that, if a tiny risk increased by 50% is still tiny, then since any probability can be reached by repeatedly increasing by 50%, then any probability is "tiny". [[Randall]]'s response to this is to mockingly warn of an impending attack by a dog holding a gun, implying that one who believes such an argument must believe that the probability of whatever occurance they are discussing is just as unlikely as the probability of a dog with a gun in its mouth shooting you, even though in reality the occurance being discussed is probably much more likely and believable. Alternatively, perhaps Randall actually sees a dog with a gun in the midst of his reply. |
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==Transcript== | ==Transcript== | ||
− | + | :Ponytail: We should go to the north beach. Someone said the south beach has a 20% higher risk of shark attacks. | |
− | :Ponytail: We should go to the north beach. Someone said the south beach has a 20% higher risk of shark attacks. | + | :Cueball: Yeah, but statistically, taking three beach trips instead of two increases our odds of getting shot by a swimming dog carrying a handgun in its mouth by '''''50%!''''' |
− | :Cueball: Yeah, but statistically, taking three beach trips instead of two increases our odds of getting shot by a swimming dog carrying a handgun in its mouth by '''''50%''''' | + | :Beret Guy: Oh no! This is our third trip! |
− | :Beret Guy: Oh no! This is our third trip! | + | :[Reminder: A 50% increase in a tiny risk is ''still tiny''.] |
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+ | [[Category:Comics from August]] | ||
[[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]] | [[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]] | ||
[[Category:Comics featuring Ponytail]] | [[Category:Comics featuring Ponytail]] | ||
[[Category:Comics featuring Beret Guy]] | [[Category:Comics featuring Beret Guy]] | ||
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