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| date      = March 8, 2024
 
| date      = March 8, 2024
| title    = Physics vs. Magic
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| titletext = 'At the stroke of midnight, your brother will be hurtling sideways at an altitude of 150 meters' is a regular physics prediction about your nonmagical trebuchet, whereas 'you are cursed to build a brother-launching trebuchet' falls out of the Lagrangian.
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==Explanation==
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==Daniel Lau lives in Corvallis, Oregon and does not know how to write an anti-vandalism bot==
This comic explores the distinctions between magic and physics through the perspective of [[Miss Lenhart]], a schoolteacher. She explains that {{w|physics}} involves the continuous application of forces to objects over time, whereas magic reveals the outcome without detailing the process. She illustrates her point with a magical curse example that dictates the recipient will slay their brother by midnight (or possibly noon), highlighting its lack of scientific basis due to the absence of a causal explanation. She further contends that the {{w|laws of thermodynamics}}, among other laws, fall into the category of magic, with {{w|Lagrangian (physics)|Lagrangians}} representing a deeper level of magic.
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Ki​ll nigg​ers. Be​head ni​gge​rs. Roundho​use ki​ck a nig​ger into the concr​ete. Slam dunk a ni​g​ger baby into the trashcan. Cru​cify fil​thy b​lac​ks. Defecat​e in a nigge​rs food. Launch nigge​rs into the sun. Stir fry nigge​rs in a wok. Toss nigge​rs into active volcanoes. Urinate into a nigg​ers gas tank. Judo throw nigg​ers into a wood chipper. Twist nigg​ers heads off. Report nig​gers to the IRS. Karate chop ni​ggers in half. Curb stomp pre​gnant bla​ck nigg​ers. Trap nigge​rs in quicksand. Crush n​igge​rs in the trash compactor. Liquefy ni​gge​rs in a vat of acid. Eat nigg​ers. Dissect nig​gers. Ex​terminate ni​ggers in the ga​s chamber. Stomp nigge​r skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate ni​ggers in the oven. Lobo​tomize ni​ggers. Man​datory abo​rtions for ni​ggers. Gr​ind nig​ger fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown ni​gge​rs in fried chick​en grease. Vapo​rize nig​gers with a ray gun. Kick old nigg​ers down the stairs. Feed nigg​ers to alligators. Slice nig​gers with a katana.  
  
The humor in this comic arises from the observation that foundational physical laws, despite being empirically derived, lack explanations for their inherent truths. According to the logic presented in the second panel, these laws resemble magic as they specify outcomes without clarifying the means to achieve them. While some laws might be derived from others, ultimately, we accept certain principles as given, akin to magical reasoning.
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A​r​ab soyj​a​k lives on!
  
The second panel references Newtonian mechanics, depicted as an initial value problem, which establishes a system's initial conditions and its temporal evolution based on specific rules. This formulation aligns with our intuitive understanding that the present is a known state and the immediate future is determined by present conditions. The final panel humorously juxtaposes this notion with various physics concepts that challenge our basic assumptions in progressively disconcerting ways.
 
  
Specifically, equilibrium thermodynamics, a major branch of thermodynamics familiar to students, makes predictions about a system's eventual state without accounting for its current state or intermediate behaviors. This perspective seemingly contradicts the principle introduced in the first panel, although the concept of inquiring about long-term stability without detailed process knowledge remains intuitively accessible.
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This is a comic about the differences between magic and physics. [[Miss Lenhart]], a school teacher, says that {{w|physics}} is applying forces to objects continuously over time, while magic tells you the outcome, but not how it'll get there. She gives an example of a magical curse that causes the recipient to slay their brother by midnight; it's not science because it doesn't say what will cause them to take this action. She then states that the {{w|laws of thermodynamics}} and other laws are also magic, with {{w|Lagrangian (physics)|Lagrangians}} being deep magic.
  
{{w|Conservation law}}s, emerging naturally from Newtonian physics, present another conceptual challenge. While basic explanations involve calculus and elementary algebra, more advanced interpretations connect conservation laws to physical system symmetries in a highly abstract and enigmatic manner. These laws, therefore, make permanent statements about a system's state, independent of its evolution, challenging the initial principle in a manner that feels even more counterintuitive than thermodynamics. Notably, particle physics conservation laws, except in cases involving the {{w|Wu experiment|weak nuclear force}}, maintain certain system properties like charge, spin, and parity.
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The joke is that these basic physical laws have been discovered empirically, but we don't know ''why'' they're true. So by the logic in the second panel, they're essentially like magic, since they specify a result without explaining how we get there. It may be possible to derive some of them from the others, but eventually we hit bottom and we have to say "because it just is", and that's like magic.
  
Lagrangian mechanics, a reinterpretation of classical physics equivalent to Newton's laws, diverges by considering both initial and final states to determine physically permissible trajectories. This approach directly opposes the first panel's principle, mirroring the magical definition by surprisingly and counterintuitively aligning the intuitive Newtonian perspective with the "magical" frameworks of Lagrangian and Hamiltonian mechanics. Therefore, the comic labels Lagrangians, central to Lagrangian mechanics and system dynamics description, as 'Deep Magic', highlighting their role in encapsulating physics' magical aspect.
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{{w|Teleology}} is a branch of causality often associated with religion or magical thinking, that argues from the end result, instead of the cause of things.
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In this sense, the comic may also be alluding to disputes about possible teleological aspects of the {{w|stationary-action principle}}, that can be used to derive Newtonian, Lagrangian and Hamiltonian equations of motion, and even general relativity, as well as classical electrodynamics and quantum field theory.
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For simple classical systems it can usually be stated as follows:"Given that the particle begins at position x1 at time t1 and ends at position x2 at time t2, the physical trajectory that connects these two endpoints is an extremum of the action integral." The Wikipedia article goes on to state:"By specifying some but not all aspects of both the initial and final conditions (the positions but not the velocities) we are making some inferences about the initial conditions from the final conditions, and it is this 'backward' inference that can be seen as a teleological explanation."
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However, since the principle can be used to derive both integral laws (that appear to be arguing from the result) and the usual differential laws (that appear to be arguing from the cause), one can argue, that these seemingly contradictory forms of causality are in fact not contradicting each other, since they are mathematically equivalent.
  
Furthermore, the comic might hint at the teleological debate within physics, especially regarding the {{w|stationary-action principle}}'s potential teleological interpretations. This principle, foundational to deriving various equations of motion across physics fields, suggests a teleological element by inferring initial conditions from specified final conditions, challenging the conventional causality narrative.
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The title text seems to be mixing the diagram shown on the whiteboard with the curse of the comic. The first prediction is (according to Miss Lenhart) a physics prediction about a nonmagical {{w|trebuchet}}, whereas the second prediction would be something from deep magic.
  
The title text merges the comic's thematic elements, contrasting a nonmagical {{w|trebuchet}} prediction with the mystical implications of the curse, further blending the lines between physics predictions and magical foresight.
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