Talk:3282: Trick Play
Ive been here before the comments but never before even a explanation, or even a transcript! Ill do a good deed and add the transcript rq 163.120.65.183 17:34, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
I'm sorry Randall but it's IFAB (the International Football Association Board) who manages the Laws of the Game, not FIFA. The FIFA officials right now wouldn't answer anyways, they're much too busy being corrupt :P Midnight vortigaunt (talk) 18:50, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
- True it's IFAB who come up with the rules (namely LotG), but FIFA is responsible for requiring IFAB's rules to be used. Also FIFA has half of the votes on IFAB anyway, so Randall's effectively correct. DKMell (talk) 21:46, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
- Technically FIFA is a member of IFAB, so there are a lot of people who are officials in both IFAB and FIFA at the same time.--Trimutius (talk) 14:08, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
Wasn't something like this pulled off in one of the books in Robert Asprin's MythAdventures series, to score on both teams in a three-way game? RegularSizedGuy (talk) 20:12, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
- In Myth Directions, the ball got divided in normal way (not using any paradox) and they scored with both halves to different goals resulting in final score 1.5:1.5:1. --Hkmaly (talk) 02:31, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
If this play results in a goal would it be scored as 1/2 goal if one goes in and the other is blocked? 15.248.0.79 21:13, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
- But if the new balls have the same volume and mass as the original ball? Or does the origin count? The mathematicians should play against physicists with conservation of mass. Sebastian --88.217.185.170 07:35, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
I'd like to mention this famous video on the Banach-Tarski paradox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFvokQUHh08 from 2011 even if it is a little off-topic. 84.154.68.192 10:16, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
In regards to an extra ball on the field, which one is the extra ball? As I understand each ball would be constructed from and/or still be a part of the original ball. Since the procedure involves cutting the ball into infinitely many pieces I suspect that would break a rule and supersede the presence of multiple balls on the filed/pitch. 69.204.108.174 15:59, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
- Please allow me to correct you on the point “infinitely many pieces”: the wonder and beauty of the Banach–Tarski paradox lies not only in the fact that you create volume out of thin air, but that the original object is divided into only finitely many pieces (five in the classical case of a ball). – Michael L. J. 134.60.67.135 06:35, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Creating volume out of thin air is something that commonly occurs when inflating a football. 2A0A:EF40:F68:E001:289C:24CD:D20E:4530 09:46, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Indeed, the fact that a sphere could be cut into *infinitely* many pieces and reassembled into two balls isn't at all surprising to a mathematician, its just the claim that they contain the same amount of points. A line segment, a square, a disk, a ball, a cube, 10000 balls, all of 3-D space, etc all have the same amount of points, the same as the amount of real numbers there are ("the cardinality of the continuum" if you want to sound fancy). Doing it with finitely many rigid (but infinitely intricate) pieces is the fun thing. Terdragontra (talk) 13:16, 12 August 2026 (UTC)
Thank you for your correction. dividing the object into five pieces then, with infinite precision? (or would that be infinitesimal?)As regards my original comment I suspect cutting the ball *at all* would violate some rule. 69.204.108.174 03:43, 11 August 2026 (UTC)