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| title = City Talk Pages | | title = City Talk Pages | ||
| image = city talk pages.png | | image = city talk pages.png | ||
− | | titletext = I don't think the Lakeshore Air Crash Museum really belongs under 'Tourist Attractions.' It's not a museum--it's just an area near the Lake Festival Laser Show where a lot of planes have crashed. | + | | titletext = "I don't think the Lakeshore Air Crash Museum really belongs under 'Tourist Attractions.' It's not a museum--it's just an area near the Lake Festival Laser Show where a lot of planes have crashed. |
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==Explanation== | ==Explanation== | ||
− | + | {{incomplete|So far only listing references to items. A real explanation needs to be written together from this and more. Title text explanation needed. Real life examples of such city talk pages with at least the more realistic part of the content? There need to be a table with each item?}} | |
− | The | + | The comic makes fun about Wikipedia talk pages. In the Wikipedia every page has a place to discuss the content of the page, called a "{{w|Help:Using talk pages|talk page}}". In this case, the comic talks about the talk page of an article about a city. While some of the topics are quite normal for such a page (e.g. the quality of the images) others are not (e.g. too many murders and mine disasters in the city). |
− | The | + | The topics show a common problem at Wikipedia's talk pages: People often use them as a place to talk about the ''subject'' of the article, but it is for talking about the ''article'' itself. |
− | + | "Not that notable" refers to Wikipedia's general criteria for including information in articles. Material which is not noteworthy should be removed; however, different editors often disagree about what is notable, resulting in conflicting edits as text is inserted and then removed (an "edit war"). Someone with a personal agenda to suppress certain information might justify their removal of it by claiming it is "not notable", despite other users' interest. "I think the murderer is reverting my edits" suggests the murders are being committed by ''one person'' who is trying to prevent Wikipedia from publishing evidence of them. This raises the possibility that the discussion of the murder visible in the infobox picture was ''initiated by the murderer''. | |
− | + | The {{w|WP:Infobox|infobox}} is a short fact sheet that many articles in the (English) Wikipedia have; it generally includes an image illustrating the subject of the article. The question of which picture is best for the infobox (because this image is so prominent) can cause edit wars. | |
− | {{w|Voltaire}} was a French Enlightenment writer. As a prominent and very opinionated intellectual, [https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Voltaire#Misattributed he gets a lot of quotes falsely attributed to him]; most famously, he did not actually say "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" (that was {{w|Evelyn Beatrice Hall}}) | + | {{w|Voltaire}} was a French Enlightenment writer. As a prominent and very opinionated intellectual, [https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Voltaire#Misattributed he gets a lot of quotes falsely attributed to him]; most famously, he did not actually say "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" (that was {{w|Evelyn Beatrice Hall}}). |
− | + | {{w|Zootopia}} is a 2016 Disney film. | |
− | 1982 Secession refers to Key West, Florida seceding from the United States in 1982 to form the | + | {{w|1982 Secession}} refers to Key West, Florida seceding from the United States in 1982 to form the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conch_Republic Conch Republic]. |
− | + | {{w|Andrew Lloyd Webber}} is an English composer famous for writing ''The {{w|Phantom Of The Opera}}''. (Webber is also known for writing the music for ''{{w|Starlight Express}}'', a rock opera about anthropomorphized trains, which is probably another factor in the train station joke.) Meanwhile, {{w|Frank Lloyd Wright}}, who has a somewhat similar name, was an American architect, who designed more than 1,000 structures. As it turns out it was the composer who was responsible for the train station, and thus explaining the reason for the roof collapse. | |
− | + | In the comic ''Webber'' is spelled ''Weber''. This could be a mistake by [[Randall]], (but then it it likely to be corrected later...) More likely Randall did this for the sake of realism as this is what can be expected by people writing in a talk page on Wikipedia, where errors are not necessarily corrected as they would be in the main article. | |
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==Transcript== | ==Transcript== | ||
− | :[Caption above the panel:] | + | :[Caption above the panel: ] |
:I love reading the Wikipedia talk pages for articles on individual cites | :I love reading the Wikipedia talk pages for articles on individual cites | ||
:[A list of contents for a Wikipedia talk page regarding an article about a city. Except for the header and the square brackets, which are written in black text, the rest is in a blue font.] | :[A list of contents for a Wikipedia talk page regarding an article about a city. Except for the header and the square brackets, which are written in black text, the rest is in a blue font.] | ||
− | :::Contents [<font color=" | + | :::Contents [<font color="blue">Hide</font>] |
− | < | + | :<font color="blue">1 Origin of city's name?</font> |
− | + | ::<font color="blue">1.1 Idea for a better name</font> | |
− | ::1.1 Idea for a better name | + | ::<font color="blue">1.2 Not how Wikipedia works</font> |
− | ::1.2 Not how Wikipedia works | + | :<font color="blue">2 Too much promotion of the lake festival</font> |
− | :2 Too much promotion of the lake festival | + | :<font color="blue">3 Should we mention the murders?</font> |
− | :3 Should we mention the murders? | + | ::<font color="blue">3.1 Not that notable</font> |
− | ::3.1 Not that notable | + | ::<font color="blue">3.2 All cites have murders</font> |
− | ::3.2 All cites have murders | + | :<font color="blue">4 Quote verification: Even if Voltaire did visit (unlikely), why would he get so angry about our restaurants?</font> |
− | :4 Quote verification: Even if Voltaire did visit (unlikely), why would he get so angry about our restaurants? | + | :<font color="blue">5 Discuss: New picture</font> |
− | :5 Discuss: New picture | + | ::<font color="blue">5.1 Current one looks awfully bleak</font> |
− | ::5.1 Current one looks awfully bleak | + | ::<font color="blue">5.2 Gray sky</font> |
− | ::5.2 Gray sky | + | ::<font color="blue">5.3 What about this</font> |
− | ::5.3 What about this | + | ::<font color="blue">5.4 Also bleak</font> |
− | ::5.4 Also bleak | + | ::<font color="blue">5.5 Maybe this place just looks that way</font> |
− | ::5.5 Maybe this place just looks that way | + | ::<font color="blue">5.6 Found a better picture, more colorful</font> |
− | ::5.6 Found a better picture, more colorful | + | ::<font color="blue">5.7 That's a shot from Disney's ''Zootopia''</font> |
− | ::5.7 That's a shot from Disney's ''Zootopia'' | + | :<font color="blue">6 "Mining disasters" section too long</font> |
− | :6 "Mining disasters" section too long | + | ::<font color="blue">6.1 Not really Wikipedia's fault</font> |
− | ::6.1 Not really Wikipedia's fault | + | ::<font color="blue">6.2 Why is this town so bad at mining?</font> |
− | ::6.2 Why is this town so bad at mining? | + | :<font color="blue">7 Infobox picture: I just realized you can see a murder happening in the background</font> |
− | :7 Infobox picture: I just realized you can see a murder happening in the background | + | ::<font color="blue">7.1 This city is terrible</font> |
− | ::7.1 This city is terrible | + | ::<font color="blue">7.2 Photoshopped out murder</font> |
− | ::7.2 Photoshopped out murder | + | ::<font color="blue">7.3 Can someone just take a better picture</font> |
− | ::7.3 Can someone just take a better picture | + | ::<font color="blue">7.4 Okay, uploaded a new picture</font> |
− | ::7.4 Okay, uploaded a new picture | + | ::<font color="blue">7.5 Wait, never mind, I just noticed there's a murder in this one, too</font> |
− | ::7.5 Wait, never mind, I just noticed there's a murder in this one, too | + | :<font color="blue">8 1982 secession still in effect?</font> |
− | :8 1982 secession still in effect? | + | :<font color="blue">9 I think the murderer is reverting my edits</font> |
− | :9 I think the murderer is reverting my edits | + | :<font color="blue">10 Why does this article take '''''any''''' position on correct condom use, let alone such a weird and ambiguous one?</font> |
− | :10 Why does this article take '''''any''''' position on correct condom use, let alone such a weird and ambiguous one? | + | :<font color="blue">11 Train station "Designed by Andrew Lloyd Weber"?</font> |
− | :11 Train station "Designed by Andrew Lloyd | + | ::<font color="blue">11.1 They probably mean Frank Lloyd Wright</font> |
− | ::11.1 They probably mean Frank Lloyd Wright | + | ::<font color="blue">11.2 I thought so too, but it's apparently not a mistake</font> |
− | ::11.2 I thought so too, but it's apparently not a mistake | + | ::<font color="blue">11.3 Didn't know he did architecture</font> |
− | ::11.3 Didn't know he did architecture | + | ::<font color="blue">11.4 Roof collapse</font> |
− | ::11.4 Roof collapse | ||
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{{comic discussion}} | {{comic discussion}} | ||
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[[Category:Comics with color]] | [[Category:Comics with color]] | ||
[[Category:Wikipedia]] | [[Category:Wikipedia]] | ||
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